Cars WSC/90s Group C Cars: Toyota TS010, Jaguar XJR14

The-IC · May 20, 2017

Hey, just creating a proper thread for this to start posting in

So basically I want to do some of the Group C cars from the end of the era in the early 90s, specifically the Toyota TS010 and Jaguar XJR-14/Mazda MXR-01, however there's the potential to do more from that era afterwards...I won't lock in anything beyond these two cars for now though

For the moment the team is:
Modelling - The-IC
Physics development - mclarenf1papa

No new pics of the TS010 yet, just consolidating stuff from previous posts in other threads, but I have been preparing the splinecage in preparation for the XJR14/MXR-01

Also, I do have a model of the 1992 IMSA Mazda RX-792P I got part-way through way back in 2009 that I'll be looking at to see if its re-workable...old render of this here:
http://the-ic.deviantart.com/art/IMSA-Mazda-RX-792P-WIP5-131474432
Realistically this one wouldn't be competitive with the others though, it wasn't close the pace of the XJR-14 or the Eagle MkIII during the 1992 IMSA season, and it probably wouldn't drive much differently from the 787B based on the info available for it (maybe a bit more grip/downforce)...but we'll see...

Anyway, the Toyota is top of the list, so as soon as the last few assignments of my course are out of the way I'll be continuing on with it, and mclarenf1papa has already got a solid set of physics for it working

Enjoy

AccAkut · May 20, 2017

We can never have too many purpose build racecars

Getting the physics right (or just aquiring enough information) is a hard job tho. If you come across the suspension details of a 1984 Tiga C2 Prototype I might have a try at the KRB Lotus some day

Old Geezer · May 20, 2017

PLEASE make these rides happen! Would LOVE to see them in the game as I'm most likely the only one who thinks the present LMP1 cars are butt-ugly & I refuse to even drive them.
MANY THANKS...O.G.

aphidgod · May 20, 2017

No, I think most of us feel that way.

Lots of talent here. Excited.

A3DR · May 20, 2017

What a bunch of beautiful cars! something to really look forward to. Love the Mazda and the TS010 is looking perfect so far.

Ryno917 · May 22, 2017

Great stuff! Especially happy to hear the Mazda may be in the works; despite being uncompetitive among its contemporaries, it's still one of my favorites.

Flat-twin · May 23, 2017

Great ! For me it will always be the car that was on the official poster in 1993 (different evolution but anyway) that I had in my room (I was living near Le Mans at this time).

VaporOne · May 23, 2017

Im looking really forward to this mod!
its gonna be awsome..
You are very talented!

ltcars · May 23, 2017

Will you release the cars all by one or as a pack?

mclarenf1papa · May 24, 2017

Flat-twin said:
Great ! For me it will always be the car that was on the official poster in 1993 (different evolution but anyway) that I had in my room (I was living near Le Mans at this time).

That was from a test at Fuji I think....the efficiency of a bi-plane wing is worth the drag I guess, so they put it back on for Le Mans.

The-IC · May 27, 2017

Thanks for the positive response

@Flat-twin As mcf1p has already mentioned, the TS010s all had the bi-plane rear wings at Le Mans in both '92 and '93, so the single low wing must not have provided enough performance benefit during testing...the Mazda MXR-01 had one of each at LM in '92, the Renown sponsored car had the full bi-plane wing, while the white Kajima car had the low wing...

@ltcars Not sure on that one yet...will have to get further in to it and decide what would work best

Also, this is just in the air, but if I were to do a Nissan as well, would the P35 with the 3.5L V12 or the R91CK with TTV8 appeal more? Pending reference, info etc. ...

Dave_6 · May 27, 2017

IMO I'd rather see the R91CK. I love the older turbo Nissans.

Ryno917 · May 27, 2017

The-IC said:
Also, this is just in the air, but if I were to do a Nissan as well, would the P35 with the 3.5L V12 or the R91CK with TTV8 appeal more? Pending reference, info etc. ...

Definitely the R91CK, especially if we can get the bi-plane wing version

The-IC · May 27, 2017

@Ryno917 Thats precisely the one I meant

Ryno917 · May 27, 2017

The-IC said:
@Ryno917 Thats precisely the one I meant

mclarenf1papa · May 27, 2017

The P35 would only be interesting if we made an S1 variant with a decent engine...stock it would be beyond uncompetitive (only 550 or so HP from the V12). R91CK would be cool and probably easier for me to do since it's still racing in Historics.

The-IC · May 27, 2017

Yeah, true, the one racing event the P35 did at Mine circuit wasn't a great performance...alright, the R91CK will be the Nissan of choice then

mclarenf1papa · May 27, 2017

The-IC said:
Yeah, true, the one racing event the P35 did at Mine circuit wasn't a great performance...alright, the R91CK will be the Nissan of choice then

I have less aero data for the 91 though, so I'll have to see what I can dig up.

Grand Tourist · May 27, 2017

I have always been in love with Le Mans prototypes, especially the early 90's era. That Toyota just looks so beautiful. I thank you guys already for this wonderful project.