2012 Sauber C31

[Eric Parker]

the nose isn't that much lower this year, its just the top of the front that is. Really if you want to lower the nose you have to change the dependence on the way the air flows to the underside of the car.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

The question is, what can they change to avoid the duck noses 2013? They surly don't change the rules cause they did it for the safety.

2014 you mean

For 2014 the nose tip can´t be higher then the vertical center of an F1 tire. Brawn GP style.

 

[Ivo Simons]

What is now the real reason that we have those noses now?
Sometimes i think they just making rules just to make rules. Every year there are some changes and its always the same who can best adapt to it wins the championship. F1 will really benefit for ones if the rules dont change every year.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

Watch the Lotus launch video, he will explain it

 

[Chris Jenkins]

What is now the real reason that we have those noses now?
Sometimes i think they just making rules just to make rules. Every year there are some changes and its always the same who can best adapt to it wins the championship. F1 will really benefit for ones if the rules dont change every year.

This rule change was for safety purposes. Ugly or not, its a good idea.

 

[Ivo Simons]

Yeah i just read that. But the height wasnt a issue last year as it didnt exceed the cockpit height. Why not stay with that height this season also and declare that as the maximum height. Why now lower it again.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

Yeah i just read that. But the height wasnt a issue last year as it didnt exceed the cockpit height. Why not stay with that height this season also and declare that as the maximum height. Why now lower it again.

For 2014 it will be so cars can´t take off when hitting a tire like Mark Webber did.

 

[zlep]

2014 you mean

I don't get it. What's with 2013?

 

[Scott Webber]

 

[Hampus Andersson]

There are pictures on Page 1 Scott

I don't get it. What's with 2013?

Duck noses will be in effect from 2014, not 2013 as far as i know. Together with all the other regs.
Or am i wrong on this?

Anyway here´s a potential look at how they will be designed. Took me half an hour or so

 

[zlep]

Ah, ok, I think we have other understandings about a "duck nose"
For me, these 2012 cars have duck noses.

You mean from 2014 the cars must have these low noses like they had in the 90s? Something like this?

If yes, I did not know that but that's cool

 

[Eric Parker]

more like late 2000's.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

Think BrawnGP for 2014 regs regarding the nose.
Zlep i missunderstood your post completely Yes noses for 2014 will look like below.

 

[zlep]

Yeah. Everything is better then this years cars.

 

[GAIAjohan]

I think the wings, ears and flaps everywhere + chimney era was worse..

 

[Hampus Andersson]

Yeah. Everything is better then this years cars.

Not aerodynamically.

 

[glight]

All of this "it's so ugly" talk is driving me nuts. If you want to look at a "beautiful" F1 car then look at all of them before someone had the idea to put wings on the cars. Every car designed after they put wings on it has been primarily about aero performance. None of the engineers (NONE OF THEM) really care what the car looks like aesthetically, only that it GOES FASTER. To me, these strange aero ideas are actually quite interesting.

We are not here to see a beauty pageant, we are here to see cars go fast and race each other.

 

[Scott Webber]

 

[Hampus Andersson]

New exhaust positioning.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

Check out the wings above the sidepod