AMS 2 v0.8.2.0 Available Now!

[UMC 22]

A new patch for AMS 2 is available for download now on Steam. The official announcement is as follows:

V0.8.2.0 is now up on Steam, introduces several substantial updates to Physics & AI along with the new Photo Mode.

IMPORTANT: In order to ensure you completely reset your build to the latest changes, it´s strongly recommended to delete your MyDocs/Automobilista 2 settings folder and start anew - make sure to callibrate your controller, and that your pedals are callibrated to the complete 1-100 range (some users have reported needing to callibrate pedals twice for it to register - we´re still investigating it).

V0.8.2.0 CHANGELOG:

CONTENT

• Added Snetterton 100 layout
• Added Velocittá CD layout
• Added Interlagos Historic External Ring layout

GENERAL

• Further updates to rain spray (longer life, draw distance, smaller from front wheels)
• Reduced threshold for track limit penalties (still subject to further tuning)

UI / HUD

• Implemented initial version of in-game Photo Mode
• Added back Random Weather option
• Added vehicle statistics to track loading screen
• Updated car class colour definitions & added short class name icons
• Multiplayer Browser: Player count corrected to sort numerically instead of alphabetically; fixed incorrect
• Lobby Screen: Fixed activation of "Invite" button; added class and vehicle name to driver table column headings; fixed private/password icon showing for all servers
• Removed redundant session time acceleration button from Multiplayer monitor screen

PHYSICS

• Corrected error in fast damper rates incorrectly applying to cars without 2-stage damping (resulting in overall incorrect or altogether broken dampers in some cases)
• Updated semi-slick treads on various Caterhams for more accurate performance on a wet track
• Adjusted carcass load stiffness for F-Vee / Copa Fusca / F-Uno / Copa Truck / F-Classic / F-Trainer / F3 / P4 tyres
• Removed excessive rolling resistance from wet tarmac & concrete (AI & player)
• Further revised MRX aero, suspension rates & default setup
• Adjusted ideal temperature ranges in several compounds (correcting sizeable errors in P4, F-Classic Gen1 tyres
• Fixed wrong tread width on F-Vee front tyre
• Fixed F-Classic Gen3 Model1 7th gear
• Updated rental kart physics (narrower track, rear tyres)
• Applied Balance of Performance for cars in P3 class

AI

• Implemented new AI Aggression logic
• Fixed AI suspension rate issue that could cause AI cars to vibrate violently
• Slightly Increased AI smoothness when moving laterally (both calm and urgent) & AI simplied tyre peak slip angle, combining to slightly more natural changes of direction

TRACKS

• Interlagos Historic: Complete art pass
• Incremental art passe to Oulton Park, Spielberg
• Updated night lights & fixed flags for Brands Hatch, Imola, Goiania
• Added period-accurate night lighting to historical tracks
• Updated Kansai trackside cameras

VEHICLES

• Copa Uno: Added missing lower LODs
• ARC Camaro: Full field livery update
• F-Classic:Fixed needle vertex AO, mirror material on LODs of G1M!; Added rear light to G1M2, G2M3; Fixed gearshift lever animation for G3M3
• Updated wet and inter tyre textures for F-Classics & F-V12
• Caterhams: Fixed carbon material
• Roco 001: Fixed gearstick animation
• Sprintrace: Added windscreen reflection, corrected drift gearshift animation (paddles instead of sequential
• AJR: Added Tubarão #5 2020 Chevy V8 livery; added chrome parts to v
• F-Reiza: fixed duplicated livery
• F-V12: Added new Community Skins
• F-Ultimate: Updated liveries for Reiza / Milano / Groove teams (logos/materials)

AI & PHYSICS UPDATES

This build features some major physics and AI improvements - it is recommended to reset your setups and AI Aggression setting.

On the AI side, the AI Aggression system has been completely revamped, changing the way the AI evaluates passing opportunities and how that blends with the AI Aggression setting - 50-70% is a good starting point, with 100% almost sure to result in at least some AI-to-AI crashes.

The AI performance range has also been adjusted but as overall callibration is still in progress you may still observe inconsistencies against player performance as you go from class to class and through different sessions and weather conditions - this should be evolving consistently as we progress through Early Access. AI performance on the run-down to the 1st corner and generally over the first lap likewise will still be callibrated further in upcoming builds.

On the physics side, the biggest change is the addressing of an error that was causing fast dampers not to be disabled in cars that didn´t have suspensions with 2-stage damping (pretty much all cars in the game except the F-V10, F-Reiza, F-Ultimate and SuperV8) - this effectively meant dampers would not work right at certain speeds or were broken altogether, fixing this has gone a long way towards rectifying some of the handling anomalities reported since Beta began. While not all will have substantial handling differences, pretty much every car is worth revisiting with this update.

One of the positive side-effects of this correction is that Force Feedback may feel better / more consistent than before, as a result of the suspension now working properly (rather than development of the FFB system per se).

Source

 

[UMC 22]

It's late so I haven't done a lot of testing yet, but I threw a few cars around Donnington just to see if the differences are noticeable. In short, they are. All the cars I tried - Caterham Superlight, Super V8, Formula Classic Gen3 and P1 - all showed a marked improvement in handling. I was no longer constantly losing the rear and fishtailing on straights, so they all felt more stable and precise. Ended up driving for a lot longer than I meant to, and can't wait to get back into it when I get up in the morning.

Looks like an excellent patch so far!

 

[Mitja Bonca]

Is there a multiplayer already? Cause I have just seen a video on YU.

 

[UMC 22]

Is there a multiplayer already?

Yes, but only between players. There's no dedicated server app yet.

 

[dreamer al]

It's late so I haven't done a lot of testing yet, but I threw a few cars around Donnington just to see if the differences are noticeable. In short, they are. All the cars I tried - Caterham Superlight, Super V8, Formula Classic Gen3 and P1 - all showed a marked improvement in handling. I was no longer constantly losing the rear and fishtailing on straights, so they all felt more stable and precise. Ended up driving for a lot longer than I meant to, and can't wait to get back into it when I get up in the morning.

Looks like an excellent patch so far!

Thanks Ross. Although I have one question you may be able to answer (or not). In relation to this part of the announcement ;

"IMPORTANT: In order to ensure you completely reset your build to the latest changes, it´s strongly recommended to delete your MyDocs/Automobilista 2 settings folder and start anew - "

I do NOT have this settings folder, although i do have a "ffb_custom_settings.txt" file. Might it be that because I do not have a wheel, but gamepad. that it does not refer to my situation?

 

[Leonardo Chaves]

"it´s strongly recommended to delete your MyDocs/Automobilista 2 settings folder" Just pointing out that i had to turn off steam cloud to succesfully get rid of my settings.

 

[dreamer al]

"it´s strongly recommended to delete your MyDocs/Automobilista 2 settings folder" Just pointing out that i had to turn off steam cloud to succesfully get rid of my settings.

To be clear, does it mean to delete the Mydocs / Automobilisat 2 folder entirely, OR just the settings folder containted within (which I do not have)?

 

[DrPenguin87]

Delete the entire Automobilista 2 folder in My Documents. The 'Settings' folder doesn't exist.

 

[Leonardo Chaves]

The damper updates certainly worked, the P1 Metalmoro is now a sweetheart when it previously was a bit of pig.

In the setup screen it shows numbers for rear fast rebound(i think), every other fast option is on 0, so that's something the guys at Reiza need to look at.

 

[BazzaLB]

I tested the "Stock Car" at Interlagos with the update. This car still seems to have too little mechanical grip at low speeds as the rear end is pretty slippery through the two very tight slow corners on exit. Its fine once you corner at any speed where some degree of downforce kicks in of course, but mechanical grip is lacking I feel. (I did quite a few laps in order to ensure tires warmed up nicely)

Would be interested to see what others think about this car/track combo in terms of mechanical grip to see if its just me. I didn't play with any car setup.

Edit3: Upped the differential Power Ramp from default 77deg to 82deg. This seemed to mitigate my low speed tight corner concerns in the Stock Car at Interlagos along with a slight bit of right foot dampening

EDIT1: Tried an AI race at Oulton park with the SuperV8. The AI no longer try to turn 45 degrees left and right down the straight any more (they are still pretty erratic in their decision making), but they are still completely brain dead when cornering. You can be side by side going down the straight on the outside of them leaving plenty of room heading into an approaching corner and they still blindly ram into you as they try to take the ideal racing line. (ie they actually turn from straight to the outside line where I already am prior to even entering the corner). I had not even remotely deviated from my straight course. Believe me, I am leaving room on my inside. I am hugging the very outside of the track! Same happens when on their inside approaching a corner. I am not talking about me attempting to dive bomb the AI, but being completely next to them for extended period approaching a corner (I didn't just come out of nowhere).

They are blind. I think this is a fundamental flaw of the underlying engine AI logic that I suspect will not be easy for Rieza to tune out (I hope I am wrong). Luckily, the AI are raceable because when they blindly start bumping into you through the corners, you are not magically thrown off into the bushes as a result, but remain pretty unaffected by their madness (that I am thankful for). Its pretty frustrating that in an age where AI is everywhere and making astonishing progress, we gamers are left with brain dead algorithms. "Hey Siri, please take control of all the other cars in my race" /rant

Edit2: More Observations. Racing Arc Camaro @ Oulton. Heading down the back straight following an AI car (not closely) who is all on his own. As he approaches the quick Chicane he does a quick inexplicable wiggle right then left before then setting up for the 'normal' corner racing line approach by then gently moving to outside. Its these inexplicable wiggles that show there is some underlying issue with the AI routines. No one around them, but they still wiggle before doing what should be a completely predictable smooth racing line action.

Perhaps this AI engine has been so over engineered over time its no longer tuneable to be predictable and not erratic. Thank goodness they use simplified physics as I would hate to think what problems would ensue if they had to also worry about traction or lack thereof caused by such sudden erratic behaviour.

Apologies for all the extra Edits. Just wanted to add info rather than new post(s).
Disclaimer: Despite some frustration with the AI, I am absolutely loving playing AMS2 in VR. Its pretty much all I have been playing since it was released (with the occasional dip into the new X-Plane 11.50 Vulcan beta in VR)

 

[dreamer al]

Any one else having problems with Adelaide track in Test mode. As soon as I come out of the pits the car slides to the left then all over the place, as if there is grease all over the track. No matter what vehicle I drive, I get the same result. However there are no problems when using Race mode with AI's. Weird!!!

 

[VaiHalen]

Any one else having problems with Adelaide track in Test mode. As soon as I come out of the pits the car slides to the left then all over the place, as if there is grease all over the track. No matter what vehicle I drive, I get the same result. However there are no problems when using Race mode with AI's. Weird!!!

I had that in the first build. First time I see other player with the same issue. Now It seems all is right and I can run Adelaide fine in test mode.

 

[o Tiger Feet o]

This update has made a HUGE improvement for me using a DD1 & SFX100. The cars feel like cars hurah!

So far ive tried the Caterham Superlight & The Sprint cars

I can now actually race on Oulton Park without having my teeth shaken out. I can now feel the balance of the car and push more at tracks like Donnington.

The AI has improve quite alot too. They still panic abit when approaching a corner off racing line, but I've had some good racing. More AI like and less bot like

Hoping for wipers & lights in the next patch....

 

[UMC 22]

Thanks Ross. Although I have one question you may be able to answer (or not). In relation to this part of the announcement ;

The announcement wasn't worded so well. So yeah, you need to delete My Documents\Automobilista 2, the whole folder. This will of course set your entire game back to default, including losing car setups etc. However, since those setups are probably obsolete given the changes made in the patch, I don't think it's a big deal at this point. Took me all of 5 minutes to get everything set back the way it was.

Also, Leonardo was right, you'll have to disable Steam Cloud otherwise the settings folder will be restored!

 

[BazzaLB]

The Caterhams have headlights. Its my favorite racing to race them @ Oulton Park, headlights and shadows dancing in the night

 

[Raf Nix]

I tested the "Stock Car" at Interlagos with the update. This car still seems to have too little mechanical grip at low speeds as the rear end is pretty slippery through the two very tight slow corners on exit. Its fine once you corner at any speed where some degree of downforce kicks in of course, but mechanical grip is lacking I feel. (I did quite a few laps in order to ensure tires warmed up nicely)

Would be interested ..

Same here..
Did you already delete/renew the My Documents\Automobilista 2 folder?

 

[DrPenguin87]

Any one else having problems with Adelaide track in Test mode. As soon as I come out of the pits the car slides to the left then all over the place, as if there is grease all over the track. No matter what vehicle I drive, I get the same result. However there are no problems when using Race mode with AI's. Weird!!!

I had this issue as well on the first build. Took me a few minutes to figure out that the default date ingame was mid winter in Australia and ambient and track temperatures were well below 0. I changed to a summer date in the southern hemisphere and all was fine.

 

[jooeeyy]

Yes, but only between players. There's no dedicated server app yet.

Is there going to be matchmaking in AMS2?

 

[Viperion]

It's late so I haven't done a lot of testing yet, but I threw a few cars around Donnington just to see if the differences are noticeable. In short, they are. All the cars I tried - Caterham Superlight, Super V8, Formula Classic Gen3 and P1 - all showed a marked improvement in handling....

Totally agree, this patch has solved nearly all of my issues I had in the previous version. Weirdly I jumped into Donington to test as well

Looks like an excellent patch so far!

Hear hear!

 

[UMC 22]

Is there going to be matchmaking in AMS2?

I have no idea, but there will certainly be a dedicated server app. That'll mean communities like RD can start hosting races. I would assume AMS 2 will eventually have some kind of ranking system as well, though that's probably some way off right now.