Conspiracy Theories

Never seen that WTC footage, gonna bookmark that. Several survivors running out of 1 & 2 reported hearing multiple explosions before and after the planes hit. In the preceding few weeks there were a number of NIN routine "safety" drills which had sections of the building evacuated. The bomb dogs were also pulled from the building about a month prior, shortly after the new mega-terrorism insurance was put on the towers.

Usually to find the truth you follow the money. Usually. The official report stated the funds for the attacks were never tracked down(they were), but it's ok because it was "of little significant value".
 
Ok so today i have been reading the news paper and something caught my eye.

It says "EXTREME TERROR THREAT TOWARDS OLYMPICS"

Before 9/11 there were reports of increased terror threats towards NYC.
What happened? terror attacks...

So what will happen this time? Probably another terror attack.
And if something does happen (hope not) i think all of this military will be irrelevant actually.

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Woah listen to this, http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/os2012/article15126856.ab

Magnus Ranstorp is a terror-expert and a scientist at Försvarshögskolan (military school i think)

The news site interviews him about these terror threats, here´s a snippet.

What do you think can happen?
Everything can happen, everything from super-attacks to USA going to war with Iran
But Great Britain has thought about all of this, remember they practiced for terror attacks two week before the 2005 bombing.​
I was in London that day and i was stuck due to the exercises.​
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Pretty interesting stuff.​
My theory on what will happen IF IT HAPPENS.​
London Olympics will start, everything is fine, then one day some part of the city will be nuked, yes nuked.​
Panic will arise and all fingers will point to Iran and then USA, Britain plus a number of other nations will invade Iran.​
that´s my theory if something happens.​
 
Ok so i managed to talk to a Structural Engineer in hope of discussing the soft vs hard thing but i quickly found myself in a new conversation i had no intention of starting.

What is interesting is that his friends helped write the NIST report.

You can read the full conversation here.
http://quikk.se/?79f949

I gave him some evidence like molten steel and asked him if he could find anything on it in the NIST report.
Obviously this was ignored. So you have a structural engineer, his friends helped write the NIST report.
And he´s been given an evidence that isn´t in the NIST report.
If i was a structural engineer and someone brought new evidence not accounted for in the report i would start researching it.
Instead i´m just a "conspiracy theorist" even though we can clearly see MOLTEN STEEL.

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I actually talked to another guy that had no affiliation with NIST or similar and he never not once tried to explain to me how the collapse happened.
He said i had a good point and gave me a list of things i needed to find out to make as accurate of a calculation as possible.

Like any normal person would that is completely unbiased in this.
 
The other guy gave me this info, notice how different his response is to the NIST affiliated person.

well find out the pressure rerquired to break steel gurders of that thickness, and then work out how much pressure would be supplied to each gurder
for example, we have a wing of such a distance, it hits x gurders, so divide the wing frontal area by x, and you get the area of mass hitting each gurder, find out the mass of the wings, and divide by x, you get the average mass hitting each gurder, you now need an acceleration, or we could look at suvat equations,

If anyone want to help out, then help me find this info.

(should be noted that i never not once discussed anything else other then the physics behind soft versus hard material colliding with this person)
 
One other thing, no plane crashed into the Pentagon and no plane crashed in Shanksville Pennsylvania, for there is more than enough evidence and proof to show that so my question is where are the passengers that were supposed to be on those two planes?

My respect and condolences still go out to the New York Fire Department, First Responders and to the families and friends that lost loved ones on that very tragic day.

I tried, but could not let this go. I reported the above post as violating the Content Rules of this site, and it came from an Admin no less. Sad.

I guess the respect and condolences don't extend to the families of people who died aboard the two planes that you say never actually crashed or those in the Pentagon!

You choose not accept the evidence presented, because you'd rather believe in some elaborate conspiracy theory that makes far less sense.

Included are victims for whom AP has confirmed the death with named local or federal government officials, the person's family, a named spokesman for the person's employer or a named funeral home official. In the case of confirmation by family members, victims are included when the family member is definitive that the person is dead or that the family considers the person dead.

Flight 77
CREW

Charles Burlingame, 51, Herndon, Va.*
David M. Charlebois, 39, Washington, D.C*
Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Md.*
Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Virginia*
Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Virginia*
Renee A. May, 39, Baltimore, Md
*


PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, Washington, D.C.*
Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif*
Mary Jane (MJ) Booth, 64, Falls Church, Va.*
Bernard Curtis Brown, 11, Washington, D.C.*
Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif.*
William Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md.*
Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md.*
Zandra Cooper, Annandale, Va.*
Asia Cottom, 11, Washington, D.C.*
James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md.*
Rodney Dickens, 11, Washington, D.C.*
Eddie Dillard, Alexandria, Va.*
Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va.*
Barbara G. Edwards, 58, Las Vegas, Nev.*
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md.*
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.*
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Md.*
James Joe Ferguson, 39, Washington, D.C.*
Wilson "Bud" Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.*
Darlene Flagg, 63, Millwood, Va.*
Richard Gabriel, 54, Great Falls, Va.*
Ian J. Gray, 55, Columbia, Md.*
Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.*
Bryan Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va.*
Steven D. Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va.*
Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Va.*
Chandler Keller, 29, El Segundo, Calif.*

 
Flight 77 (cont)
Yvonne Kennedy, 62, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia*
Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va.*
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, Washington, D.C.*
Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va.*
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, Calif.*
Christopher Newton, 38, Anaheim, Calif.*
Barbara Olson, 45, Great Falls, Va*
Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, Calif.*
Robert R. Ploger, 59, Annandale, Va.*
Lisa J. Raines, 42, Great Falls, Va.*
Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Maryland*
John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va.*
Diane Simmons, Great Falls, Va.*
George Simmons, Great Falls, Va.*
Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif.*
Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y*
Norma Lang Steuerle, 54, Alexandria, Va.*
Hilda E. Taylor, 62, Forestville, Md*
Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va.*
Sandra Teague, 31, Fairfax, Va.*
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Maryland.*
John D. Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md.*
Vicki Yancey, 43, Springfield, Va.*
Shuyin Yang, 61, Beijing, China*
Yuguag Zheng, 65, Beijing, China*
 
Flight 93
CREW
Lorraine G. Bay, 58, East Windsor, N.J.*
Sandra W. Bradshaw, 38, Greensboro, N.C.*
Jason Dahl, 43, Denver, Colo.*
Wanda Anita Green, 49, Linden, N.J.*
Leroy Homer, 36, Marlton, N.J.*
CeeCee Lyles, 33, Fort Myers, Fla.*
Deborah Welsh, 49, New York, N.Y.*

PASSENGERS
Christian Adams, 37, Biebelsheim, Germany*
Todd Beamer, 32, Cranbury, N.J.*
Alan Beaven, 48, Oakland, CA*
Mark K. Bingham, 31, San Francisco, Calif.*
Deora Frances Bodley, 20, San Diego, Calif.*
Marion Britton, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, San Ramon, Calif.*
William Cashman, 57, North Bergen, N.J.*
Georgine Rose Corrigan, 56, Honolulu, Hawaii*
Patricia Cushing, 69, Bayonne, N.J.*
Joseph Deluca, 52, Ledgewood, N.J.*
Patrick Joseph Driscoll, 70, Manalapan, N.J.*
Edward P. Felt, 41, Matawan, N.J.*
Jane C. Folger, 73, Bayonne, N.J.*
Colleen Laura Fraser, 51, Elizabeth, N.J.*
Andrew Garcia, 62, Portola Valley, Calif.*
Jeremy Glick, 31, Hewlett, N.J.*
Lauren Grandcolas, 38, San Rafael, Calif.*
Donald F. Greene, 52, Greenwich, Conn.*
Linda Gronlund, 46, Warwick, N.Y.*
Richard Guadagno, 38, of Eureka, Calif.*
Toshiya Kuge, 20, Nishimidoriguoska, Japan*
Hilda Marcin, 79, Budd Lake, N.J.*
Nicole Miller, 21, San Jose, Calif.*
Louis J. Nacke, 42, New Hope, Pa.*
Donald Arthur Peterson, 66, Spring Lake, N.J.*
Jean Hoadley Peterson, 55, Spring Lake, N.J.*
Waleska Martinez Rivera, 37, Jersey City, N.J.*
Mark Rothenberg, 52, Scotch Plains, N.J.*
Christine Snyder, 32, Kailua, Hawaii*
John Talignani, 72, New York, N.Y.*
Honor Elizabeth Wainio, 27, Watchung, N.J.*
Olga Kristin Gould White, 65, New York, N.Y.*


Pentagon:
Spc. Craig Amundson, 28, Fort Belvoir, Va.*
Melissa Rose Barnes, 27, Redlands, Calif.*
(Retired) Master Sgt. Max Beilke, 69, Laurel, Md.*
Kris Romeo Bishundat, 23, Waldorf, Md.*
Carrie Blagburn, 48, Temple Hills, Md.*
Lt. Col. Canfield D. Boone, 54, Clifton, Va.*
Donna Bowen, 42, Waldorf, Md.*
Allen Boyle, 30, Fredericksburg, Va.*
Christopher Lee Burford, 23, Hubert, N.C.*
Daniel Martin Caballero, 21, Houston, Texas*
Sgt. 1st Class Jose Orlando Calderon-Olmedo, 44, Annandale, Va.*
Angelene C. Carter, 51, Forrestville, Md.*
Sharon Carver, 38, Waldorf, Md.*
John J. Chada, 55, Manassas, Va.*
Rosa Maria (Rosemary) Chapa, 64, Springfield, Va.*
Julian Cooper, 39, Springdale, Md.*
Lt. Cmdr. Eric Allen Cranford, 32, Drexel, N.C.
Ada M. Davis, 57, Camp Springs, Md.*
Capt. Gerald Francis Deconto, 44, Sandwich, Mass.*
Lt. Col. Jerry Don Dickerson, 41, Durant, Miss.*
Johnnie Doctor, 32, Jacksonville, Fla.*
Capt. Robert Edward Dolan, 43, Alexandria, Va.*
Cmdr. William Howard Donovan, 37, Nunda, N.Y.*
Cmdr. Patrick S. Dunn, 39, Springfield, Va.*
Edward Thomas Earhart, 26, Salt Lick, Ky.*
Lt. Cmdr. Robert Randolph Elseth, 37, Vestal, N.Y.*
Jamie Lynn Fallon, 23, Woodbridge, Va.*
Amelia V. Fields, 36, Dumfries, Va.*
Gerald P. Fisher, 57, Potomac, Md.*
Matthew Michael Flocco, 21, Newark, Del.*
Sandra N. Foster, 41, Clinton, Md.*
Capt. Lawrence Daniel Getzfred, 57, Elgin, Neb.*
Cortz Ghee, 54, Reisterstown, Md.*
Brenda C. Gibson, 59, Falls Church, Va.*
Ron Golinski, 60, Columbia, Md.*
Diane M. Hale-McKinzy, 38, Alexandria, Va.*
Carolyn B. Halmon, 49, Washington, D.C.*
Sheila Hein, 51, University Park, Md.*
Ronald John Hemenway, 37, Shawnee, Kan.*
Maj. Wallace Cole Hogan, 40, Fla.*
Jimmie Ira Holley, 54, Lanham, Md.*
Angela Houtz, 27, La Plata, Md.*
Brady K. Howell, 26, Arlington, Va.*
Peggie Hurt, 36, Crewe, Va.*
Lt. Col. Stephen Neil Hyland, 45, Burke, Va.*
Robert J. Hymel, 55, Woodbridge, Va.*
Sgt. Maj. Lacey B. Ivory, 43, Woodbridge, Va.*
Lt. Col. Dennis M. Johnson, 48, Port Edwards, Wis.*
Judith Jones, 53, Woodbridge, Va.*
Brenda Kegler, 49, Washington, D.C.*
Lt. Michael Scott Lamana, 31, Baton Rouge, La.*
David W. Laychak, 40, Manassas, Va.*
Samantha Lightbourn-Allen, 36, Hillside, Md.*
Maj. Steve Long, 39, Ga.*
James Lynch, 55, Manassas, Va.*
Terence M. Lynch, 49, Alexandria, Va.*
Nehamon Lyons, 30, Mobile, Ala.*
Shelley A. Marshall, 37, Marbury, Md.*
Teresa Martin, 45, Stafford, Va.*
Ada L. Mason, 50, Springfield, Va.*
Lt. Col. Dean E. Mattson, 57, Calif.*
Lt. Gen. Timothy J. Maude, 53, Fort Myer, Va.*
Robert J. Maxwell, 53, Manassas, Va.*
Molly McKenzie, 38, Dale City, Va.*
Patricia E. (Patti) Mickley, 41, Springfield, Va.*
 
(cont.)
Maj. Ronald D. Milam, 33, Washington, D.C.*
Gerard (Jerry) P. Moran, 39, Upper Marlboro, Md.*
Odessa V. Morris, 54, Upper Marlboro, Md.*
Brian Anthony Moss, 34, Sperry, Okla.*
Ted Moy, 48, Silver Spring, Md.*
Lt. Cmdr. Patrick Jude Murphy, 38, Flossmoor, Ill.
Khang Nguyen, 41, Fairfax, Va.*
Michael Allen Noeth, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Diana Borrero de Padro, 55, Woodbridge, Va.*
Spc. Chin Sun Pak, 25, Lawton, Okla.*
Lt. Jonas Martin Panik, 26, Mingoville, Pa.*
Maj. Clifford L. Patterson, 33, Alexandria, Va.*
Lt. J.G. Darin Howard Pontell, 26, Columbia, Md.*
Scott Powell, 35, Silver Spring, Md.*
(Retired) Capt. Jack Punches, 51, Clifton, Va.*
Joseph John Pycior, 39, Carlstadt, N.J.*
Deborah Ramsaur, 45, Annandale, Va.*
Rhonda Rasmussen, 44, Woodbridge, Va.*
Marsha Dianah Ratchford, 34, Prichard, Ala.*
Martha Reszke, 36, Stafford, Va.*
Cecelia E. Richard, 41, Fort Washington, Md.*
Edward V. Rowenhorst, 32, Lake Ridge, Va.*
Judy Rowlett, 44, Woodbridge, Va.*
Robert E. Russell, 52, Oxon Hill, Md.*
William R. Ruth, 57, Mount Airy, Md.*
Charles E. Sabin, 54, Burke, Va.*
Marjorie C. Salamone, 53, Springfield, Va.*
Lt. Col. David M. Scales, 44, Cleveland, Ohio*
Cmdr. Robert Allan Schlegel, 38, Alexandria, Va.*
Janice Scott, 46, Springfield, Va.*
Michael L. Selves, 53, Fairfax, Va.*
Marian Serva, 47, Stafford, Va.*
Cmdr. Dan Frederic Shanower, 40, Naperville, Ill.*
Antoinette Sherman, 35, Forest Heights, Md.*
Don Simmons, 58, Dumfries, Va.*
Cheryle D. Sincock, 53, Dale City, Va.*
Gregg Harold Smallwood, 44, Overland Park, Kan.*
(Retired) Lt. Col. Gary F. Smith, 55, Alexandria, Va.*
Patricia J. Statz, 41, Takoma Park, Md.*
Edna L. Stephens, 53, Washington, D.C.*
Sgt. Maj. Larry Strickland, 52, Woodbridge, Va.*
Maj. Kip P. Taylor, 38, McLean, Va.*
Sandra C. Taylor, 50, Alexandria, Va.*
Karl W. Teepe, 57, Centreville, Va.*
Sgt. Tamara Thurman, 25, Brewton, Ala.*
Lt. Cmdr. Otis Vincent Tolbert, 38, Lemoore, Calif.*
Willie Q. Troy, 51, Aberdeen, Md.*
Lt. Cmdr. Ronald James Vauk, 37, Nampa, Idaho*
Lt. Col. Karen Wagner, 40, Houston, Texas*
Meta L. Waller, 60, Alexandria, Va.*
Staff Sgt. Maudlyn A. White, 38, St. Croix, Virgin Islands*
Sandra L. White, 44, Dumfries, Va.*
Ernest M. Willcher, 62, North Potomac, Md.*
Lt. Cmdr. David Lucian Williams, 32, Newport, Ore.*
Maj. Dwayne Williams, 40, Jacksonville, Ala.*
Marvin R. Woods, 57, Great Mills, Md.*
Kevin Wayne Yokum, 27, Lake Charles, La.*
Donald McArthur Young, 41, Roanoke, Va.*
Lisa L. Young, 36, Germantown, Md.*
Edmond Young, 22, Owings, Md.*
Source: http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/sept11/victims/victims_list.htm
 
Prove that they died at Pentagon.

They could have been shot down like the Pittsburgh one and then small parts of wreckage was brought to Pentagon, like an engine, a piece of a wing or similar.

Show me a piece of the airplane body at Pentagon.
 
This person WALKED out of the hole with her baby. Her office was just next to the impact hole. She actually thought she activated a bomb because when she clicked on her computer screen to turn it on she heard a loud bang.

If she walked out of the hole, do you not think she would see gee i don´t know, A MASSIVE AIRPLANE BODY perhaps?

You don´t think she would HEAR A PLANE COMING TOWARDS HER AT 500MPH?
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