Cars (DATA REPLACEMENT) Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0 Improved Physics by Arch

Kyuubeey · Sep 6, 2019

Kyuubeey submitted a new resource:

(DATA REPLACEMENT) Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0 Improved Physics by Arch - One more RR Porsche.

06.09.2019 Version 1.0

• Initial release

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Doesn't require shaders patch! Requires Porsche Pack 1 DLC!

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Includes:
Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0 Group 4

Credits:
Physics and custom UI file by Arch/Kyuubeey
UI file torque curves by x4fab's AC Torque Helper
Everything else by Kunos Simulazioni

INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS:

The data.acd file is intended as a replacement used alongside the KS 911 RSR visuals
or a fitting visual of your choosing. Visuals and sound...

Read more about this resource...

hal4000 · Sep 6, 2019

I got to drive this car quite few times in the recent past painting it. I try it out to see what it looks like, get the AI to drive it and I check my work in the ext cam. With this one I don't. I drive it myself. I leave the work for later...

Thanks!

Leonardo Ratafiá · Sep 7, 2019

Mike Murphy · Sep 7, 2019

Followed instructions, including replacing sound but don't get any in car engine sound (only tried in cockpit view). Is there something basic I'm missing?!

Mike Murphy · Sep 7, 2019

Michael Murphy said:
Followed instructions, including replacing sound but don't get any in car engine sound (only tried in cockpit view). Is there something basic I'm missing?!

Nevermind - seems that I had a problem with original RSR sounds. Sorted those, replaced as per instructions and all working perfectly.

Kyuubeey · Sep 7, 2019

Kyuubeey updated (DATA REPLACEMENT) Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0 Improved Physics by Arch with a new update entry:

Front geo, track widths

07.09.2019 Version 1.1

- Changed front geometry
- Corrected spacers, offsets, track widths etc.
- Added UI folder which I seem to have forgotten
- Thanks to @mike12345678 and @AlleyViper for data

Read the rest of this update entry...

Leonardo Ratafiá · Sep 8, 2019

back to original release, ffb feels better that in 1.1 update.
let's see if there comes further updates.

Fat-Alfie · Sep 8, 2019

Can I ask if the gear ratios are based on RL figures? Because it feels like there is a pretty big jump from 2nd to 3rd in your modded physics release.

The overall handling feels great, though, and someone's suggestion to replace the sounds with those from the 935/78 really works.

Kyuubeey · Sep 8, 2019

Leonardo Ratafiá said:
back to original release, ffb feels better that in 1.1 update.
let's see if there comes further updates.

Hey, light steering and negative ackerman is a feature, not a bug. And steering geo is wrong in 1.0. Objectively. I'm not changing anything except due to more data.

Fat-Alfie said:
Can I ask if the gear ratios are based on RL figures? Because it feels like there is a pretty big jump from 2nd to 3rd in your modded physics release.

The overall handling feels great, though, and someone's suggestion to replace the sounds with those from the 935/78 really works.

Hey, of course not. Like everything else, I don't do any research and I simply guess the values. /s

Leonardo Ratafiá · Sep 8, 2019

Will give it a try again but didn't like how it feels at all. It feels numb overall. I mostly like your cars when you do the geometry wrong lol

Kyuubeey · Sep 8, 2019

Leonardo Ratafiá said:
Will give it a try again but didn't like how it feels at all. It feels numb overall. I mostly like your cars when you do the geometry wrong lol

The steering was described as "Light, but not quite communicative".

So it's working as intended.

Leonardo Ratafiá · Sep 8, 2019

Fat-Alfie said:
Can I ask if the gear ratios are based on RL figures? Because it feels like there is a pretty big jump from 2nd to 3rd in your modded physics release.

The overall handling feels great, though, and someone's suggestion to replace the sounds with those from the 935/78 really works.

I thought the same but of course it's based on those documents from FIA homologation stuff. You can play with some shorter ratios and different final as well

mclarenf1papa · Sep 8, 2019

Kyuubeey said:
Hey, of course not. Like everything else, I don't do any research and I simply guess the values. /s

Not like plenty of values on the car aren’t guessed. Was a fair and politely-asked question.

Kyuubeey · Sep 8, 2019

mclarenf1papa said:
Not like plenty of values on the car aren’t guessed. Was a fair and politely-asked question.

Yeah, but you don't usually guess gear ratios. To me the question "Hey did you make up the gear ratios?" on a car where you can find them fairly easily is a bit absurd, so I answered in an absurd manner.

I remember KS having some really weird ratios, so either those in the docs are wrong and not precise, they did something weird, or there's some data I don't have. So "Are you sure the ratios are correct?" is more appropriate, perhaps. I would answer "Seemingly".

CobraCat · Sep 8, 2019

Fat-Alfie said:
Can I ask if the gear ratios are based on RL figures? Because it feels like there is a pretty big jump from 2nd to 3rd in your modded physics release.

The overall handling feels great, though, and someone's suggestion to replace the sounds with those from the 935/78 really works.

Exactly! The audio from the 935/78 is far superior and much closer to the real exhaust note of the Carrera RSR 3.0. The original Kunos sound lacked the distinctive growl that is quite prominent in the real engine sound.

Kyuubeey · Sep 8, 2019

CobraCat said:
Exactly! The audio from the 935/78 is far superior and much closer to the real exhaust note of the Carrera RSR 3.0. The original Kunos sound lacked the distinctive growl that is quite prominent in the real engine sound.

I'll try it. Maybe I will suggest it in the post if it's so good.

Will Arch update two times in a row back to back every day? Find out today!

I fixed one minor oversight and changed inertia quite drastically. Seems 911 really does have a very long inertia box.

CobraCat · Sep 8, 2019

Good work. I appreciate your efforts and updates.

Lets hope those future updates omit any additional barbed sarcasm.

Kyuubeey · Sep 8, 2019

CobraCat said:
Good work. I appreciate your efforts and updates. Lets hope those future updates omit any additional barbed sarcasm.

Thanks. I tried the sound, but the turbo whistling bothers me, so I won't "officially" endorse it. Otherwise it'd be great.

I think I will search for more additional info specific to the '74 car and leave the update for a bit later.

I didn't mean it in an insulting way directed at anyone in particular, so I think the sarcasm will stay.

I just used it as an excuse to post a data source, for some reasoning on why they are like they are.

Do try to understand it from my perspective, though. Just about every day, I have people questioning my stuff when they themselves don't know anything (And I don't mean to imply the people in this thread are those kind of guys) and making claims like my laserscanned suspensions are wrong because I'm me, or my torque curves are wrong because I'm me, or my damper graphs are wrong because I'm me etc.

So it can irk me in the wrong way when someone asks "Hey, is *easy to find data* really correct? To me it *feels* wrong."

Stereo · Sep 8, 2019

Kyuubeey said:
Hey, light steering and negative ackerman is a feature, not a bug. And steering geo is wrong in 1.0. Objectively. I'm not changing anything except due to more data.

Hey, of course not. Like everything else, I don't do any research and I simply guess the values. /s

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don't mean to stir trouble but the sheet has a typo on it, 3rd gear long and 4th gear short is 1.261 (29/23) not 1.126