Misc F1 2021 Extreme, Medium and Realistic Damage Update 6

StrongestFish · Jul 17, 2021

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F1 2021 Extreme, Medium and Realistic Damage - More AI crashes

This mod increases damage sensitivity in "Simulation" mode for AI and player.

Unfortunately there is no way to affect damage for new parts such as sidepod, rear wing etc., so this is not changed. Mod affect only to front wings and suspension.

The main goal of the mod is to add more AI crashes and random safety cars that change the course of the race.
Crashes only occur when the AI (or player) touches each other, causing damage.
The AI's are very careful when fighting each other, and...

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ManuKillerITA96 · Jul 17, 2021

Where is Mercedes Xml file?

StrongestFish · Jul 17, 2021

ManuKillerITA96 said:
Where is Mercedes Xml file?

In common.erp, as always in F1 2020-21

ManuKillerITA96 · Jul 17, 2021

StrongestFish said:
In common.erp, as always in F1 2020-21

Thanks!

IKEIKE · Jul 18, 2021

Had 11 DNFs turn 1 at BAKU and 4 more first lap after SC.
EXTREME Mod does what it says on tin!

Poubelle · Jul 18, 2021

I feel that IA is more prudent than for F1 2020. In Realistic, i have no more crash, and for medium, a lot with huge crashs. Sensitivity seems to not being the same than in F1 2020. It's difficult to set.

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StrongestFish · Jul 18, 2021

Poubelle said:
I feel that IA is more prudent than for F1 2020. In Realistic, i have no more crash, and for medium, a lot with huge crashs. Sensitivity seems to not being the same than in F1 2020. It's difficult to set. .

I just used the same numbers as in 2020. Realistic is still very sensitive compared to 2018-2019 and absolutely not realistic.
What tracks did you go on, what distances, did the dirty air change?

Poubelle · Jul 18, 2021

I did my tests usefully with Monza and Monaco.
The first corners are a good test for me.

With Realistic values, I didn't have any yellow flag or little contact between AI cars.
With medium, there is a huge impact. I'm trying to find a balance actually.

For dirty air, i use 0.8 for drag and 0.9 for lift.

StrongestFish · Jul 19, 2021

Poubelle said:
I did my tests usefully with Monza and Monaco.
The first corners are a good test for me.

With Realistic values, I didn't have any yellow flag or little contact between AI cars.
With medium, there is a huge impact. I'm trying to find a balance actually.

For dirty air, i use 0.8 for drag and 0.9 for lift.

Realistic is designed to ensure that in the middle of 50-100% of the race once or twice the AI collided and caused a random safety car. They should not crash at every start. The medium one adds chaos to short races, so everything works as it should. Read the description.

darren lenardo · Jul 19, 2021

StrongestFish said:
StrongestFish submitted a new resource:

F1 2021 Extreme, Medium and Realistic Damage - More AI crashes

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Here is my video of Raikkonen getting a puncture (finally the AI get them.....), this was from a replay viewing back AI DNF's from the superb full race replays in F1 2021.

Only found this due to Mazepin hitting him further along, who Terminal Damage'd from the clash. I couldnt keep the Mazepin part in as the filesize would be too large.

Enjoy!

StrongestFish · Jul 19, 2021

darren lenardo said:
I will upload it to YouTube **

Youtube is best option

darren lenardo · Jul 19, 2021

Added in the YT link.

s00zster · Jul 21, 2021

I don't know if you know this, but you say it's not possible to affect sidepod, floor, diffuser etc. damage - I've just looked through the ferrari.vtf in the ERP Archiver - damage settings for the rest of the car are in a different section of the XML under <F1BodyDamage>. You might want to check that out.

StrongestFish · Jul 21, 2021

s00zster said:
I don't know if you know this, but you say it's not possible to affect sidepod, floor, diffuser etc. damage - I've just looked through the ferrari.vtf in the ERP Archiver - damage settings for the rest of the car are in a different section of the XML under <F1BodyDamage>. You might want to check that out.

Of course I have seen this, but changing MaxDamage to 1 or 1000 instead of 80 does not give any effect. The other lines are not about the sensitivity of damage.

s00zster · Jul 21, 2021

StrongestFish said:
Of course I have seen this, but changing MaxDamage to 1 or 1000 instead of 80 does not give any effect. The other lines are not about the sensitivity of damage.

Ohh ok, yeah. The sensitivity. Hmm, that sucks then. :\

s00zster · Jul 21, 2021

How about this? Found this entry:

<ConvexHullData numVertices="2" name="x2_floor_damage_l" generated="true">
<HullVertex x="0.1854601" y="0.09975362" z="-1.54828179" />
<HullVertex x="0.7966405" y="0.23419556" z="0.5677398" />

A whole load of entries regarding the different chassis parts. Wing mirror, canopy, sidepod, sidewing, etc. although that's the only one I can see with the word "damage" included. Perhaps the splines control damage rates?

StrongestFish · Jul 21, 2021

s00zster said:
How about this? Found this entry:

<ConvexHullData numVertices="2" name="x2_floor_damage_l" generated="true">
<HullVertex x="0.1854601" y="0.09975362" z="-1.54828179" />
<HullVertex x="0.7966405" y="0.23419556" z="0.5677398" />

A whole load of entries regarding the different chassis parts. Wing mirror, canopy, sidepod, sidewing, etc. although that's the only one I can see with the word "damage" included. Perhaps the splines control damage rates?

No, it's collision parameters that the game engine uses to calculate the bulges of the car(Convex Hull, Hull Vertex). It's not about the damage sensitivity.