While I don't disagree that those 73 players online was a fact, but it is a terrible reflection of online population. If we talking about it, I don't see any reason to cherry pick lowest number of the week/24h period and use it as an a reflection of online population. Again, I don't disagree. It is a reflection of the population, but I see it similarly like you described yourself "a blind defence like an adherent to some ideology", instead in this instance I see it as a blind attack. As a counter argument, I could pick highest population number of the week to shine online state in completely different light and state it as a fact(which it is), and then you can blame me of being "blind idealogical fanboy" because I ignored that 73 player count. While if it is done from other way around, don't you notice the same thing?
I would guess, it simply comes to, if you are positively inclined to a game, you tend to have an allergic reaction to negative arguments, especially if its constructed in a "blind" way.
And completely vice versa other way around.
Not only fanboys become religious.
My point was not to defend the title.
Also, sorry for contributing to offtopic.
There you go Fizzle, such an angry person you are - you resort to name calling, childish, when you know your argument does not stack up. People would not know my agenda since I am never asked and there is a lot of deceit around this title just as you now demonstrate, it has come to light, hence why it failed to gain a lot of traction - my agenda is only to talk about this title in a positive light AND factual light. If there is only 10% positive to talk about then thats it. One has to be realistic.
I am not going to be intellectually dishonest. I never have been and I will never start.
Its not about going off topic, although this all kind of is bordering on that - its about parameters - you would continue to expand those parameters in order to win or save face when people only want to work out which cars to drive; and yes that is difficult given the circumstances to work out, hence the thread I am trying to help. In order to discuss this topic even (where people like yourself run interference) people need to discuss then 'what makes a car good or bad' and 'is the game/engine actually allowing for good cars'
You practice ambiguity and ambivalence. That's not cool to the [maybe 3 or 4] people who are actually trying to work out which cars to drive. That is the point of the thread - not if you think the game is modelling driving and cars well or not.
Its not modelling well. Everyone established that. I piped up and said later on there's cars I enjoy driving - just not that many. So is the title perfect like you would want to push everyone's opinion toward or not - because the cars are only so-so though yes some are good.
I would say you are trying to gaslight me by being negative to an opinion I hold; while trying to do the very thing you profess of my argument - which lets face it is actually 1 justified and 2 favors the title rather well as I will actually play it now and then. Most don't play it now and then.
Simply my argument or opinion is not invalid and is backed up by scientific evidence.
I contend there are some good cars but most are bad. It just never seems to reach the heights of being able to define those good cars like another title could eg assetto corsa original with mods. If this is hurtful I am sorry - I do not otherwise know how to describe the reality. But I hope the game improves; which is another argument you would use since you already have 'its a work in progress' etc.
You simply don't want me to have the right of it. The game can be fun. Its your total-victory mindset which suggests your judgement is not valued in those things.