Should I buy AC or ACC?

BeatonicTiger · Sep 13, 2018

After buying the Deluxe Edition of Project Cars 2 for £35 I have ended up with buyers regret. After a short but fair 10 hours (on PC) I can confirm that PC 2 has only left me frustrated…. Like a kid stomping his feet shouting “ it’s not faaaair!” but yeah, that’s the feeling I have. Maybe I’ll try dig some more but my play time is limited with real life.

So should I get AC instead? Or wait for ACC to develop? I don’t wanna waste more money on a game when a “newer and better” game is out.

shmafoozius · Sep 13, 2018

Honestly, depends on two things:
1) What did you dislike about PC2?
2) What kind of experience are you looking for?

If you tell us about 1), we can tell you if those elements are also present in AC and can guess if they might be in ACC as well.

Regarding 2), it depends on if you want to have a good mix of racing classes or want to focus on a single class.

BeatonicTiger · Sep 13, 2018

shmafoozius said:
Honestly, depends on two things:
1) What did you dislike about PC2?
2) What kind of experience are you looking for?

1) I find it very hard to control the car without spinning out of control. Breaking too much or not enough. I try so hard to be careful and cautious but it has made little difference - like the game wants to punish you for realising it's intended to be a sim.

2) I just wanna drive / race nice cars - preferably road / street like cars.

shmafoozius · Sep 13, 2018

TL;DR version: Try Assetto Corsa and if you also don't like it, refund it.

After your feedback I'd say you should go for Assetto Corsa but not for ACC. I have not played PC2 but I heard from different people that cars tend to oversteer more and it's easier to get to a point where it's impossible to recover them from a spin compared to Assetto Corsa.

Then there is the fact that you preffer road/street cars. Assetto Corsa has enough of them and you can find many, many good mods of such. This also means you should stay away from ACC though. Apart from the fact that it was just released as early access, it will only feature GT3 race cars so this is not what you're looking for.

BeatonicTiger · Sep 13, 2018

Thank you. I guess I’ll pick up AC in the near future. I haven’t completely given up on PC 2. AC seems to be in a good state of play at this stage.

Richard Dastardly · Sep 13, 2018

I wouldn't buy ACC now unless you know you'll want it in 6 months ( full release date ), it'll be frustrating and it's very limited right now. AC ultimate edition is a very different game to how ACC will be - it's a driving game with racing in it, with a vast and rather messy selection of cars & tracks & great mod support. ACC is going to be only Blancpain GT3 cars for the forseeable future, and it's in very early access. I think most of us who already bought ACC own all the other sims already...

AC's physics are a vast improvement on PC2 even with it's quirks. So is AMS and rF2, mind you.

BeatonicTiger · Sep 13, 2018

Richard Dastardly said:
I wouldn't buy ACC now unless you know you'll want it in 6 months ( full release date ), it'll be frustrating and it's very limited right now. AC ultimate edition is a very different game to how ACC will be - it's a driving game with racing in it, with a vast and rather messy selection of cars & tracks & great mod support. ACC is going to be only Blancpain GT3 cars for the forseeable future, and it's in very early access. I think most of us who already bought ACC own all the other sims already...

AC's physics are a vast improvement on PC2 even with it's quirks. So is AMS and rF2, mind you.

AMS is Automobilista right?

churchlady · Sep 13, 2018

I recommend buying at least AC. AC is only $12 USD at Humble Store right now. At that price, I would think that's a no-brainer to pick up. Even with the base version (which I initially bought), you are going to have so much to do with all the mods, skins, cars, tracks, and hardware (e.g. VR, SimHub) out there. Word of advice: install Content Manager right away. It definitely makes the experience much better!

And if you love AC after playing it, then consider picking up ACC.

BeatonicTiger · Sep 13, 2018

churchlady said:
I recommend buying at least AC. AC is only $12 USD at Humble Store right now. At that price, I would think that's a no-brainer to pick up. Even with the base version (which I initially bought), you are going to have so much to do with all the mods, skins, cars, tracks, and hardware (e.g. VR, SimHub) out there. Word of advice: install Content Manager right away. It definitely makes the experience much better!

And if you love AC after playing it, then consider picking up ACC.

Wow. I just checked the AC mods page and oof I’m blown away. Track mods. This changes everything.

Billy Pilgrim · Sep 13, 2018

Mitja Bonca · Sep 13, 2018

Simple: Both.
AC: tons of cars and tracks, which you surely will not have in ACC
ACC: best sim ever, but still work in progress (you can wait with until new year)

Hoksu · Sep 13, 2018

AC has a huge variety of different types of cars and tracks, and mod support. ACC has GT3 cars only, and a limited track selection. Competizione is a focused Blancpain GT Series racing sim, whereas AC is more of an all-purpose driving sim. Also Competizione at the moment has 1 car and 1 track, minimal features, and is heavily WIP. It will be a great game, but it will take months.

Warlord_Gonagy · Sep 13, 2018

Assetto Corsa is probably the best sim for your money right now. The only one that kinda comes close is RF2, but I greatly prefer the look of AC + the content available. ACC seems like it'll be good if they allow modding, but otherwise, it'll probably be too limited.

tlsmikey · Sep 13, 2018

Like everyone else has said, based upon your feedback i'd go AC or AMS. Both are fantastic.

BeatonicTiger · Sep 14, 2018

So I grabbed AC (base game) from the Humble Bundle summer sale for a sweet £7. Played it for 2 hours last night and the difference to PC 2 is night and day – in the good way. The driving feels like it should – It feels right. I could actually make it around slightly complex bends without crashing or spinning out of control to no return. When I did crash or spin this was purely my own fault for being too exited – not the games fault.

The modding support is amazing. I can see the potential here. Not tried the career mode yet. Also got Content Manager which speeds things up a little.

Overall very happy with the purchase.

Thanks all for their advice and input.

Richard Dastardly · Sep 14, 2018

Most of the Kunos DLC cars are worth it, as are the tracks from some of the DLC.

If you're using a FFB wheel it's worth the time to generate a LUT for it.

BeatonicTiger · Sep 14, 2018

Richard Dastardly said:
Most of the Kunos DLC cars are worth it, as are the tracks from some of the DLC.

If you're using a FFB wheel it's worth the time to generate a LUT for it.

Yeah I'm gonna get all DLC me thinks. Yes I have a wheel. Sorry... "generate a LUT"?

shmafoozius · Sep 14, 2018

I think you can say that it's a curve which tells the wheel more precisely how much FFB to apply depending on how much you have turned the wheel.

Best to just look for LUT generator and read the description. But honestly, it's worth it.

Andy-R · Sep 14, 2018

Depends what sort of wheel you have. If you use a LUT with a Thrustmaster belt driven wheel it makes it feel like a Logitech gear driven one. Maybe other belt driven wheels are ok with LUT gen but definitely not T500's.