Took me a while to find this forum. Was wondering why it's tucked away amongst "old" sims when it's very much a "future" sim?
irrelvant, am I here abusing poeple using my anonymity? Or am I being polite and using netiquette?
It's not "the" yardstick, but it's clearly important especially as we only have controllers/wheels to judge what the cars doing....also, weak or low detail FFB always seem to be part and parcel of simcade games like F1 2010/Dirt3 etc.
As far as any elitism on my part, it's just my opinion and my preference, but I certainly don't change it to suit modern racing game marketing slogans.
RD is the official support forum for GSC, so yes, you'll always be directed here, but I found it to be fairly easy to set up, if you can set up any sim, you should be fine with GSC, but support is available here.
EDIT....noticeable car behaviour=physics.
But we can have a guess who you are though.
The great thing about the internet is that people can have an opinion and unless you own the website, you can't do a thing about it. Must be very frustrating for you?
Anyway, as time passes more and more members/investors or whatever you call them this week, are seeing the game for what it is. Simcade of the highest order. No different than Shift 2 in any way. If anyone was to see it running for the first time in a replay they would think it was Shift 3 without a doubt. I actually prefer Forza to be honest. Actually I prefer Shift 2 with it's great mods.
I really hope the game gets turned around by the time it's released and that it is good by then, but going on the current builds, nothing fills me with confidence that it will get any better.
Anyone with knowledge of Metallica will guess who I am. Go on have a guess if it's a game you want to play, I'm not bothered one jot.
There is a world of difference between pCARS ffb and those titles. .
I don't need to guess, I know. You can insult me as much as you like old chap. Water off a ducks back you see. I have an opinion on the game that you don't like. That seems to give you the right to insult or call names. I don't call you names, I don't insult. You carry on making a fool of yourself like you have previously. By the way Metallica? Nah I don't like pop music.
edit: You have the nerve to call me a troll?
ps, why don't you buy this website and then you can control it too.
Never tried FVA, a shame but I need more bang per buck to get my wallet out and dust off the cobwebs!!Last build, pcars operated well with my wheel, ie, no blatant deadzones etc, but I didn't find the FFB detail convincing or the driving model, but for sure, it should be a viable racing game with wheel or gamepad.
When I drive the 458 in FVA, I feel like a have a real animal in my hands, heavy FFB but it also gives me stress points of FFB detail so that I know I have to slow down or improve my braking modulation etc.
I'd swap AC physics and FFB with FVA in a heartbeat.
No car in GTR EVO feels as good as the FVA 458, but that's not to say there's isn't excellent FFB detail which I can work off, but as yet, pcars lacks plenty in that regard.
As for all the complexities at WMD, remember that even a simcade requires lots of work, but clearly not as much as a tight sim car.
Anyway, WMD still have time up their sleeve, if they've leaving the physics to the last minute that's a big mistake IMO, but anyway, all game developers should at the very minimum aim to make a good game and pcars looks like it'll hit that mark, however, it's just not in the sim category for me as yet.
Another thing to remember is that most people don't seem to care about the details of a sim, they mainly want GFX and cars that move fairly well, lol.
I hate the saying "simcade"!
Depends on which scale you put it.I hate the saying "simcade"!
And why are sims above simcades and arcade games at all? It's targeting another market, thats all. I don't rank Forza, GT or pCars to be any less than GSC2013 or AC, but I'm not interested in them either because they are not offering me what I want from a game.
You're just fuelling the elitism you're trying to squash by acknowledging the "fact" that simcades are any lesser than simulators, when in fact they're not, they're simply targeting another audience as mentioned.
I am trying to put it on a scale of difficulty @Kjell Eilertsen . Which is not insinuating a value at all.
As long as a virtual car has wheels I really don't care if its arcade or simulation.
My collection of games ranges from: Mario Kart (yes!), TDU series, Flatout, F1 Race stars, all the way up to the more simmish titles as AC, iRacing and everything in between such as GT5, Forza, EuroTruck Simulator etc.
I'd be the last to fuel elitism as I really don't give a crap if something is arcade, simcade or sim
BAMN! If i am having fun playing then that's all that matters! Sometimes though when i hear people using that "term" it completely turns me off racing games! It shouldn't, but for some reason it sets me off when i hear or read it. lolI am trying to put it on a scale of difficulty @Kjell Eilertsen . Which is not insinuating a value at all.
As long as a virtual car has wheels I really don't care if its arcade or simulation.
My collection of games ranges from: Mario Kart (yes!), TDU series, Flatout, F1 Race stars, all the way up to the more simmish titles as AC, iRacing and everything in between such as GT5, Forza, EuroTruck Simulator etc.
I'd be the last to fuel elitism as I really don't give a crap if something is arcade, simcade or sim. As long as I enjoy it its fine
So labeling Metallica as heavy metal fuels elitism? It might be that I'm mentally challenged but I don't understand why a label to define a game within a genre has to be something that belittles it.But labelling does fuel elitism, it divides if you have more than one label. That is a fact, that is the whole point of it! Hence why it's much better that we strive to stop using the Simcade label. The sim community is already quite small in comparison to others, why divide it further?
It was aimed at Damage Inc as you posted while I was typing my reply, but I completely agree, I don't care what the game is labeled as, what matters is whether I'm having fun or not.I'd be the last to fuel elitism as I really don't give a crap if something is arcade, simcade or sim. As long as I enjoy it its fine
No problem. Help is near. Pick whatever is suitable.Sorry guys. Didn't mean to start the firestorm. lol