Misc F1 2020 TyreTempMod - Realistic temperature, grip, wear, strategy v1.7

[mikidp1996]

Hi, first of all thank you for your mod and your efforts to improve this game, I just installed the mod v1.7, pl2 bahrain. I ran the race strategy program with medium tires and the temperatures were just 98-100 C, while with soft tires the temperatures were slightly lower around 95 C. In both cases the tire pressure was at a minimum. Is this thing normal? I also carried out an additional race strategy program, always with the same set of medium tires, finishing this second program with a wear of 80-85%, after having done about 14 laps (also considering the return laps). One thing I liked is that the medium tire despite being with 80% wear at the front and over 80% at the rear, the car was still drivable, obviously slower but drivable.

 

[andyandy989898]

Hi, first of all thank you for your mod and your efforts to improve this game, I just installed the mod v1.7, pl2 bahrain. I ran the race strategy program with medium tires and the temperatures were just 98-100 C, while with soft tires the temperatures were slightly lower around 95 C. In both cases the tire pressure was at a minimum. Is this thing normal? I also carried out an additional race strategy program, always with the same set of medium tires, finishing this second program with a wear of 80-85%, after having done about 14 laps (also considering the return laps). One thing I liked is that the medium tire despite being with 80% wear at the front and over 80% at the rear, the car was still drivable, obviously slower but drivable.

Yes this is to be expected. The values used for the practice strategy programs cannot be changed (from what I can see) and so the mod will make it harder to complete. It should still be possible by running higher tyre pressures. This will reduce tyre wear. Running low pressure will make it harder

 

[andyandy989898]

Thank you if you want to have a look. The strange thing is that safety car comes out, they pit, and at the end of the 1st safety car lap they did pit again for Inters even though they already did (they were the same cars). Everyone did so. Thanks!!

Just ran a 50% race at SPA with light rain in the middle. Everything worked ok even with a safety car in the rain section of the race. I would say you found one of Codemasters lovely bugs with the pit strategy ai

 

[EnriqueBanderas]

Just ran a 50% race at SPA with light rain in the middle. Everything worked ok even with a safety car in the rain section of the race. I would say you found one of Codemasters lovely bugs with the pit strategy ai

Haha lovely! Ok then even better, the mod is fine

 

[mikidp1996]

I forgot to write earlier that the race was set at 50%. Above I asked if the mod operation was right because I was expecting a higher soft tire temperature than the medium tires, instead as I said before the medium tire temperature was a bit higher. But the important thing is that it works correctly, the doubt was because I was not sure I had installed the mod correctly.

 

[andyandy989898]

Yeah that can happen

 

[thatket]

I think I have an issue... Bottas tops the timeboard with the Intermediates, it's Canada, MyTeam Season2, 95% AI.
Any suggestion on what's happening?

I cross checked all his laps, it seems that he put on Inters when it started to rain and got this lap, then as the circuit went wetter and wetter his laptimes stabilized around a solid 1:20, which are "normal" laptimes in Canada wet conditions. Also other AI drivers had the same behaviour, first 2/3 Inter laps in the range of 1:10-1:15, then 1:21

 

[Deleted member 1031992]

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I think I have an issue... Bottas tops the timeboard with the Intermediates, it's Canada, MyTeam Season2, 95% AI.
Any suggestion on what's happening?

I cross checked all his laps, it seems that he put on Inters when it started to rain and got this lap, then as the circuit went wetter and wetter his laptimes stabilized around a solid 1:20, which are "normal" laptimes in Canada wet conditions. Also other AI drivers had the same behaviour, first 2/3 Inter laps in the range of 1:10-1:15, then 1:21

I always thought that only qualifying in 1 lap was something valid with these tires because the slightest second of a simulated lap distorts everything.

 

[andyandy989898]

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I think I have an issue... Bottas tops the timeboard with the Intermediates, it's Canada, MyTeam Season2, 95% AI.
Any suggestion on what's happening?

I cross checked all his laps, it seems that he put on Inters when it started to rain and got this lap, then as the circuit went wetter and wetter his laptimes stabilized around a solid 1:20, which are "normal" laptimes in Canada wet conditions. Also other AI drivers had the same behaviour, first 2/3 Inter laps in the range of 1:10-1:15, then 1:21

So it went dry -wet- very wet and this lap was set as it was going from dry to wet?

 

[Kashima12]

I apologize if this was asked before, but what happens if you run this mod together with SURFACE ONLY setting in F1 2020? Also, will this mod work with currently started Team Career modes?

 

[andyandy989898]

I apologize if this was asked before, but what happens if you run this mod together with SURFACE ONLY setting in F1 2020? Also, will this mod work with currently started Team Career modes?

Wont fully work with surface only. The surfaces will act like before but wont pass the heat to the tyre so it wont give a full effect of how the mod works. But will still change grip and tyre life basic but the wear caused by heat wont effect the life of tyre, also wet weather will be changed but the overheating caused by a drying track wont have any effect

The mod works for any offline game mode, the mod file is loaded whenever you see the track loading screen

 

[alihaydaraslan]

I don't know if it is relevant to this mod but i wonder why AI doesn't use Hard Tyres never? I did few races at 100% on 5-6 tracks but AI only used Soft or Medium compounds.

 

[andyandy989898]

I don't know if it is relevant to this mod but i wonder why AI doesn't use Hard Tyres never? I did few races at 100% on 5-6 tracks but AI only used Soft or Medium compounds.

What version are you running? V1.7 should see the ai using the hards more

 

[thatket]

So it went dry -wet- very wet and this lap was set as it was going from dry to wet?

Yeah, the track was dry, then it started to rain and everyone put on the intermediates.
The AI set this lap (which is a normal lap for dry tyres in perfect dry conditions) with intermediates on, the track was still going from dry to wet.
As the rain continued to fall, obviously the track was becoming more and more wet, the laptimes recorded were increasing by a couple of seconds each lap, which is correct, but the starting point is awkward, 1.10 and then 1.12 with intermediates, in Canada, is waaay too fast

 

[andyandy989898]

Ok thanks I will look into it. It sounds like the grip levels for the inters when brand new and on slightly wet track need to be reduced a small amount. The wear would have been high for Bottas so I would think he wouldn't have been able to do more than 1 or 2 laps at that pace had the weather not changed.

 

[naim]

lots of overheating at singapore

 

[mikidp1996]

what is the optimal temperature for the various compounds?

 

[naim]

Hi Andy, great mod, will you please make a mod like this for F1 2021? thanks

 

[andyandy989898]

what is the optimal temperature for the various compounds?

Under 100 degrees will work fine, in terms of grip lossed due to temp its the same as main game, the change is how the tyres heat and cool

 

[andyandy989898]

Hi Andy, great mod, will you please make a mod like this for F1 2021? thanks

It seems Codemasters have made big changes to the tyre model for F1 2021, so it will depend on if modding is still possible and if it needs changing as well I guess.
One thing I have seen from gameplay is how stable dry tyres are on a wet track, so will definately look into that