Formula Legacy Manager 2 - 80s

Meff28s · Aug 29, 2018

1984 Formula One Season (7-9)

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Meff28s · Aug 30, 2018

1984 Formula One Season (10-12)

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Milos · Aug 30, 2018

Wait we lost to Beliof? In the same performing car?
How

kedy89 · Aug 30, 2018

ooh, nice one @Sasha Jednak

Benutzername · Aug 30, 2018

Milos said:
Wait we lost to Beliof? In the same performing car?
How

Because it wasnt the same performing car + Bellof is a great driver

Worst tier team won a race. And is in the standings only behind some tier 1 teams, but not all.

Great job!

Milos · Aug 31, 2018

Benutzername said:
Because it wasnt the same performing car

It was, when you add up the aero points

Sasha Jednak · Aug 31, 2018

@kedy89 thanks Tobi

Woohoooo

Great result, I knew we will be in top 2-3 on engine, but didn't expect Arrows in bad mood.

That's the thing as I understand right? On race day, some random value is calculated for drivers mood/pace. So I guess Bellof, as strong B driver, got enough positive to overcome Piquet with his negative value.

Meff28s · Aug 31, 2018

Sasha Jednak said:
@kedy89 thanks Tobi

Woohoooo
Great result, I knew we will be in top 2-3 on engine, but didn't expect Arrows in bad mood.

That's the thing as I understand right? On race day, some random value is calculated for drivers mood/pace. So I guess Bellof, as strong B driver, got enough positive to overcome Piquet with his negative value.

Yeah, there is a random value that is added to the regular pace someone has. A good B driver can beat a good A driver if he's lucky and his opponent isn't. But a very bad B driver would never be able to beat a good A driver even with a lot of luck.

However, while I was saying this week that the new changes have created something cool, we now have a Tier3 team with a better car and a better income than quite every Tier2 team and even better than any Tier1 team. Look at Ferrari : The team has now become a "solid Tier2".. It is mostly due to the 4PP gap (instead of 5) IMO and I don't know if it's finally a good thing.. what do you think ?

Sasha Jednak · Aug 31, 2018

For this season, here is how I see it: I got the better lineup then most of T2 teams, except Brabham. Combine that with "risky" sponsor, who is not that risky if you have better drivers then teams around you, and you get Williams with more PP and thus more progress in season. So I don't see a problem with this, it's just combination of a lot of things. McLaren could have been instead of Williams, but they went for Aero which didn't work.

As for T1, Ben already said he should have gone for risky sponsor, which I agree. But still he is second best team (looking balanced track numbers). To not go further, based on PP we have:
1) Arrows
2) Ferrari
3) Toleman-Renault-Williams
4) Brabham-Tyrel
Based on this you can see that drivers are big difference, same as sponsors and finally manager strategy of going for aero or engine.

rubaru · Aug 31, 2018

I think some of these decisions need to be made based on what Hugo wants. Is the Formula intended to be car or driver based? If a good driver in a bad car can still win, then the driver-based system works. However, with a car-based Formula, this would never be able to happen. I personally would prefer something slightly more balanced, as I think having a Tier 3 car winning a race is ridiculous. As good as Charles Leclerc is, he probably shouldn't ever be in a position to win a race with a Sauber.

Meff28s · Aug 31, 2018

rubaru said:
I think some of these decisions need to be made based on what Hugo wants. Is the Formula intended to be car or driver based? If a good driver in a bad car can still win, then the driver-based system works. However, with a car-based Formula, this would never be able to happen. I personally would prefer something slightly more balanced, as I think having a Tier 3 car winning a race is ridiculous. As good as Charles Leclerc is, he probably shouldn't ever be in a position to win a race with a Sauber.

I agree about Leclerc, but IMO current time shall NEVER be a reference ^^ Plus the Sauber is a Tier4 or 5 if we had to rank the 2018 cars. We currently see 6 drivers that can actually "lap" 14 other drivers.. Well it is just crazy

!
I always wanted the game to be 1/3 Driver based and 2/3 Car based which seems to be a good formula. However, my problem is that a Tier3 team won a race.. but no Tier2 team did

It sounds logical to me that Tier2 teams should be able to steal some wins sometimes.. but it should occur more often than Tier3 teams

kedy89 · Aug 31, 2018

Huh, ranking 2018 cars
T1 Ferrari, Mercedes
T2 Red Bull
T3-T5 none
T6 Rest
T7-T9 none
T10 Williams

Sasha Jednak · Aug 31, 2018

Agree with both of you, as for Leclerc and Sauber, yes todays Fomula shouldn't be used as reference. What I think the issue is, is between sponsors and 4pp between tiers. Now when we have 4pp between tiers it looks like risky sponsor is the way to go. And it pays off much better for T3 then for T2 as getting top12 is easier for T3 (14 T1/2 drivers for 12 places) then taking top6 for T2 (8 T1 drivers for 6 places).

kedy89 · Aug 31, 2018

From an outsider point of view, the only thing I immediately see when looking at the current standings is that the gap between 3rd and 4th is massive. It's basically 3 tier 1 teams grabbing 95% of the podiums. Then again a T3 team just won a race, so maybe just keep things for another 2-3 seasons, and see if more T2/3 podiums follow.