And it is not possible to change the rules (after the season ends) to kick those people back to life?
I believe the TOA can expel a license with a 75% vote. I don't think this is the best way to go about this.And it is not possible to change the rules (after the season ends) to kick those people back to life?
They had a drivers association in the past (2008 or something) in a time that there was even more activity (more divisions and interest), that was a huge "succes" not. Drivers care as much as everyone else does in this league,.. nothing at all (except a handfull of members). Because otherwise you would have had more people in the administration to help out but instead the WCDA got as inactive as TOA does during the season.
Damian, you have got a point, i say we should restrict the team owners telling the admins what to do, at the end of the day its the admins choice, not the teamsHello, I am back from the dead
Thought I may take 10 minutes just to pass on my feelings.
One of the main problems I've always found with FSR moving forward is, teams only care for their own success, and always have done. Teams will only do what's best for them to be successful, they don't care if they hurt the other teams, the league and cause "team wars etc", they just want success, simple as that. And this leads to all sorts of problems with many things associated with FSR moving forward and staying stable.
It's like that big proposal that was put forward which would of took FSR into much bigger places. (Which allot of you know about) Yes it may have only been a short term thing and could of failed, but short term success was going to be massive and at least the league would of gained much more success in terms of global exposure/financing/connections etc in a short period of time, and it could of lead to many of the drivers here being involved in real motorsports due to their talents shown in the virtual world. If it failed then the league could of rebuilt again a few years laterl, but as it meant no teams and it being about the league/drivers it did not happen, again because like stated, teams only care for their own success, not the general league/drivers. (Drivers if they was split from the team)
Yes teams are what make FSR currently, but while they have the final say on many matters, major changes will get voted down and things won't move forward, because of what's stated above.
There also needs to be much more togetherness and transparency between the teams, instead of bitterness/ rivalry (There is a thing called friendly rivalry) Kiss & Make up...
The other thing is, some people who are in higher powers (Admin) often don't listen to the community and other people involved in the league and think their own word is the final truth and cannot often see that they and the league are in the wrong sometimes. Those people who are speaking out are actually sometimes speaking the truth, and should be listened to. Instead they get brushed off by some higher powers , ignored and put down.
Blindness/ignorance to potential major changes that could benefit the league is often a problem, because one or two higher powers may not "personally" agree with the issue/change, and teams not agreeing (And of course there's the problem with things being kept private like it's already been stated)
There's always been plenty enough people to help with everything admin related, but driver's mostly care about testing to get as fast as possible for the race events, and people (like Bram has stated) will mention "they don't have time" as they would rather focus on their own/teams success, rather than helping the league with admin duties (Consistently) Bram explained it well, years back, everyone contributed, now people say, they don't have the time and want to do their own thing.
Budgeting with money could always be used more wisely, like with track makers, there's many in SimRacing if you dig deep and contact people. Some money could be put aside for them to lure them in for the season. And insure the best quality tracks all year around with no delay's with dedicated track people doing the work. (Taking the work load of presidents etc)
It's a difficult situation that's been going on for years and an hard one to solve. There's many good, dedicated and honest people here, but It would help everyone for you all to be more transparent, forget past rivalries, and ill feelings between each other, just get on, work together, be open to change/ideas, and move forward as a community.
the people here who help out in fsr are volunteers, they dont ask money to do the jobs, they do what they can to make FSR a better and more competitive league, not a boring and bland one to say the leastAnyways, I agree with you in many ways, but things like trying to pay people for track work and other things have been tried, but was usually refused as far as I know.
@Damian Dainhumain Anyways, I agree with you in many ways, but things like trying to pay people for track work and other things have been tried, but was usually refused as far as I know.
I've seen Ferrari running F1 and also RB and Prost. Not completely but... Also do you think it's so easy to find so many people completely unrelated to FSR to join and run the league for free? That's not a hurdle, that's 400m hurdles.
Hard task I know but not impossible. The biggest hurdle for this probbaly again teams and owners AKA "this is impossible" or not the way to go but if you look around that is how basic fairness and flawless cometition in sports is established.
We tried that in 2012, and lasted 2 races. When someone is not attached directly into a league is very hard to find real commitment.
And in any case I can't remember of any decision from any WC director that was clearly biased towards one team.
And if they are tied to the league there is no way not to be commited to any team.Currently we are dealing with an issue there are no people at all for 2015. So thinking of some ideal scenario yet again... get real people.
As David said, you won't find anyone to commit who isn't tied to the league. That is unless you wanna pay that person considerable amount of money to do the job.
The persons selected were RD admins by then... nothing against them of course, just shows how difficult is to find someone competent/with self initiative/with time/etc "out of nowhere" without any link to any team.
Regading the other sentence, of course the most fair situation would be to have every admin being independent, but when one complains about lack of independency and puts it on the top of the list, it's because one thinks that the persons in charge have been taking bad decisions due to their links to teams, so in that case please let me know when did that happen?