http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20130501/why-people-say-god-is-cruel/
I found this very interesting.
I found this very interesting.
Well instead of putting the blame on a figure that doesn´t exist we simply say the world is cruel.If you don't believe in a god, then you don't need to think about it's cruelty. How can you contemplate about a non-being's cruelty?
Well instead of putting the blame on a figure that doesn´t exist we simply say the world is cruel.
And we realize that we can actually try to solve these problems with technology like various natural disasters and i think that´s where the real difference is.
The god-believing person thinks it´s god´s way and you should not interfere with what he´s trying to accomplish, afterall he´s the one actively doing natural disasters as if he´s playing a video game...
It has nothing to do with logical stuff like the weather creating typhoons and hurricanes, tectonic plates creating tsunamis etc..
So he created them (obviously since he created everything)I believe in God but I definatly don't believe he is causing natural disasters. He could control them.
That´s your personal opinion or did you read it in a book?however humans have decided they don't need God so God is allowing humans the oppertunity to rule tbemselves.
But people do....this is why we are not running around with sticks and stones.If everyone had the motivation and good motives that Hampus has and many more have then im sure humans could sort out all the problems.
Well it won´t be religion as it compartmentalizes human beings with different indoctrination's.What will it take for all mankind to work together without greed?
Name a few things he has sorted out so far, it´s been 2000 years since he "supposedly" was hanging around.Which is why I put my trust in a God who promises to sort out the earth as he origanally purposed.
I´m sure you have read the history of Christianity right?And am proud to be part of an organisation which have broken down all racial barriers and is united through out the whole earth. Working toward a peaceful world.
My personal opinion is not that i have decided to not need a god, it´s just that i´ve never seen him or have seen anything that would point to the fact that he even exists.
You are missing my point. The point is why create a world with natural disasters in it, why have tsunamis, meteorites, forest fires, hurricanes, volcanoes and typhoons that brings so much unnecessary death.well in "my opinion" ... why should he control them? they are natural and just that, if "he" created this world and us to live here, then why should he have to look over us and stop these god awful events happening?
Stephen Hawking is the name. And judging by that whole comment i´d say you haven´t really read much about anything related to how the world was created,these are indeed natural events that are happening, the sun, the moon and the way the world works is probably far more complex then we could probably ever imagine..... steve hawkins i believe his name is, has probably figured half of it out and has explained so much, but still i think he's wrong in some cases. (im no wizzard tho, so i could be wrong also )
So he knowingly creates a world where humans will in fact die from natural distasters and he chooses to watch instead of doing something about it.why should god interrupt the way we live & all this suffering? is it he's duty to do such a thing?
Oh i´m right with you there, that´s for sure.im sorry but i think half the stuff i read is total bs,
I´d say it´s you god believers who have figured out already, not me.Hampus you seem to know everything, explain it all
Isn´t the obvious answer to that "why not?"Hampus let me ask you something here, if god created the planet (world) as people like to call it, why should he have made it perfect?
the question is why? if he has the power to make the world perfect, why should he?
So even though he created the place, he has no responsibility for it.at the end of the day people think god has so much power why is he letting this happen, to me that's bs, why should it be upto god to decide what happens with the world and us on it? we are the dominant species on this planet. to me the "natural" disasters are part of the world, it's something we all have to accept.
You haven´t really thought about this before i can tell. And you probably haven´t read anything about why volcanoes erupt or what the (coincidental)purpose the moon has.when he made earth, maybe it has to be in such a way around the moon and sun that these "volcanos" ... tsunami's had to be part of it for it to work.
I´m amazed you have answers to some things like the fact that he created the world but not certain questions as to why.or is it truly out of he's hands if he tried to remove these natural disasters it might just end up killing billions of us?
Interesting, what makes you choose between if it´s **** or not when it comes to certain topics regarding god?im no expert, again i could be talking **** just like 99% of the discussions i have seen about god
play along? didn't know this was a game?If i play along, you don´t think that when he created the world and volcanoes he sort of understood the effect they would have on the planet later on? If not he doesn´t strike me as the most intelligent being considering his power of creating a whole universe.
what makes me choose between it? well my brain does duhh, it's my opinion, i think half of the topics i have seen are ****.Interesting, what makes you choose between if it´s **** or not when it comes to certain topics regarding god?
And also, when you say he created the world, do you mean he also created all other matter in the universe?
If yes, then he´s as we speak designing stars that will be born today or tomorrow?
And on top of that all other planets in the universe. Just billions in our Galaxy alone.
Play along as in me believing in God when i don´t of course.play along? didn't know this was a game?
Well the fact that your brain made that decision i took as a given as i´m sure your forearm did not make that decision.what makes me choose between it? well my brain does duhh, it's my opinion, i think half of the topics i have seen are ****.
Sure you have thought this through properly?and when i say he created the world, i mean this planet not the universe. so no not creating all that matter. *Sigh*
Well i think it´s clear you haven´t really thought some things through at all, at least that´s my perception of the conversation so far.really cba debating this, we could get to 10 thousand pages and you will be right also talking of god and any religion is a delicate subject
Well if you have thought it through then why dodge the question?i mean i didn't think anything through? hmm ok
Oh and did you read the whole artical or just the first page?Well instead of putting the blame on a figure that doesn´t exist we simply say the world is cruel.
And we realize that we can actually try to solve these problems with technology like various natural disasters and i think that´s where the real difference is.
The god-believing person thinks it´s god´s way and you should not interfere with what he´s trying to accomplish, afterall he´s the one actively doing natural disasters as if he´s playing a video game...
It has nothing to do with logical stuff like the weather creating typhoons and hurricanes, tectonic plates creating tsunamis etc..
aww that;'s cheeky, i believe to choose that's what happened deep down in my mindAnd also if it´s not to much to ask. What was the tipping point where you came to the conclusion that the planet must have been created by an intelligent life form?