Hi all. Is it just me or is the Lotus 49 too stable? In iRacing or GPL, it really drifts around but in AC, it feels stuck to the road so I don't know how realistic it is. Does anyone else feel the same?
That's a much more reasonable way to say what you're getting at than what you said before.I don't know what approach they took. What is important is what is working. iRacing is getting better but is not quaite there yet.
We can probably drop the 'iceRacing' rhetoric and just stick with saying the tire model doesn't feel as well and took a long time to develop.iceRacing is not a good indicator on cars should drive. The simply made cars hard to drive and that's it
I've also heard it said that until the Lotus 49, F1 cars weren't very rigid. So flexible that setup didn't matter much, which means both of those cars would be in another league from the L49.The first video is onboard a 1.5L F1, around 190-200hp.
The second video is onboard a Formula Vee, around 60hp.
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/halloffame/colin-chapman/jackie-oliver-on-the-lotus-49/“Suddenly, with the 49, you found that small adjustments such as camber and toe-in – things like that – had an effect on the performance of the car when previously they didn’t. So as soon as you had a rigid base to work from you could be more precise, and get the performance you wanted, which was great because those early cars didn’t have the horsepower people now assume they did. The first car to run at Zandvoort in ’67 really wasn’t that powerful: it wasn’t until the end of the following year that they had it up around 400bhp.
“Anyhow, before the DFV arrived running toe-in at the back axle was never a factor, but now it had a dramatic effect, so as you started to understand these new phenomena you could begin to change the attitude of the car as it approached the corner. Whereas before there was just no point: why bother because the bloody thing was like a banana anyway? And that’s what really changed the dynamics of mechanical grip. It was the birth of a new science.”
We can probably drop the 'iceRacing' rhetoric and just stick with saying the tire model doesn't feel as well and took a long time to develop.
I don't think anyone possibly could have spent $10,000 in iRacing. But sure, it's a valid complaint that it's expensive, we don't need to resort to name calling or hyperbole. We're better than that, aren't we?And costs Almost 200 times the amount AC does?
I'm always amused when people compare it to GPL's one.
GPL's physics are totally fraked up... When I look videos from 60's era F1, they don't drift in every corner, and drivers don't fight with the machine every time they hit the throttle. And as for Iracing, they are the same guys who did GPL (Papyrus). This says long on my opinion on Iracing's physics.