PC2 Project Cars 2 Leagues (merged)

[Rob]

I know we are all excited for this release. What I don't know is how many people intend to a) play it on the xbox one and b) would like to join some sort of a formal league here at Race Department.

There are so many possibilities, I've had to calm myself down from getting lost in them. However, my main passion, IndyCar, will probably not be able to be run until the DLC with the ovals comes to the Xbox One.

That said, what sort of series would you like to see? Personally, ones that come to mind are Tudor United Sports Car Series, WEC, British Touring Car, and DTM. One of these could fill the gap for me until IndyCar is possible, but others may have better ideas.

Please indicate below if you are interested and what sort of times you are available and which series' you prefer. We could follow the actual schedule of many a series, due to the timing of the release. Personally, if they get the ovals out before IndyCar starts, I'll probably turn my focus there, but nothing would prevent running another alongside.

The anticipation is killing me!

 

[Dalai toma]

What kinda times you running in comparison to what you were pre patch ?

 

[Michael Watts]

Maybe about a second.. but the tire fall off is really bad. Tires were only worn half way by lap 7 but the car wouldn't stop in the corners at all. It was almost like a light switch how much the tires fell off.

 

[Dalai toma]

Wow half way into a lap my tires were red red red hot

 

[EpilepticToast]

what a joke, all the wear testing we've done is for nothing now, gotta learn new setups for gt3 and not drive them on the limit at all. I don't see what was wrong before, if you really pushed it you would still get overheating and wear, but now you get it driving like a granny nowhere near the edge!

 

[Michael Watts]

@EpilepticToast My tires were shot on lap 7, once I got to Kallenhard I couldn't turn the car or stop hardly at all.. they've pretty much ruined GT3.

 

[Peter Hooper]

Might give this track a go just for the fun of it and to see if I find the same with the tyres. In my only run out with the new patch so far (Oberschleben) I really enjoyed the new heating model.

 

[2pfspiff]

@Micheal I don't know if you read this on the project cars forum, but it looks like someone has a workaround with the end of race timing issue.

From the VB1 6.0 thread.

"Add an extra lap to the race. The winner could announce they've finished both verbally and then by stopping at the end of the straight following the finish line. As others finish they form a stationary queue behind the winner. All can press the option button for the race order/fastest lap info and once everyone has crossed the line do a screen capture of the result. Then everyone can follow him/her home for the last lap at the winners desired pace for a victory lap. If everyone finishes in that order and keeps their car from exploding all is good with the results screen too along with in game podium stats etc."

This was from the PS4 thread.

"We had the same idea yesterday but encountered some possible issues from an organizer point of view (e.g. two cars crossing the finish line very close to each other before the down lap) which makes checking the replay necessary. One can do that, but there is an other way to overcome the 75% timeout issue. Basically you put the additional lap at the beginning of the race....a classic out lap.

Pre-condition:
Your league racers are willing to start races using a self-imposed flying start (we do this anyway as we have qualifying sessions during the week to determine which racer is participating in which lobby and taking which place in the grid; so we have to sort ourselves into the correct starting position somehow anyway; as pCars does not offer any option to do that, we needed to find a solution for that)

Solution:
- Start the online race session with all cars in the grid
- Do an out lap and do it fairly slow (we run 80-120 kmh but will reduce that if needed)
- Define a suitable starting procedure (we use the moment when the pole car accelerates; it can do so shortly before crossing the start/finish line at the end of the out lap)
- Race until all cars get the checkered flag; the final standings page shows all necessary infos as expected

What you get is a slowest time of ca. 3 minutes in Brno for example. 75% of that is ca 135 seconds, which is enough for every one to finish the race before the timer runs out.

You can manipulate the race end timer by altering the out lap speed/time."

Figured I would throw it out there. Also are we going to attempt the in game chat option during this race or are we going the normal way? Has anyone had a chance to see if the issues with the in game chat has been resolved yet?

 

[Michael Watts]

Well we were already planning to do that anyway so that will work, thanks Spiff

 

[Peter Hooper]

Ridiculous that any of this has to be thought about.. what bonehead thought this was a good idea...

• NEW – dynamic race-end timer feature. In public races, the timer is 50% of the slowest moving car's lap time. In private races, the timer is 75% of slowest moving car's lap time.

At what point do they determine the slowest cars lap time?.. I assumed it was from their last completed lap which would make adding a slow lap to the start of the race pointless. The game doesn't seem to keep track of lap times properly other than the fastest race lap so not sure how any of that works.

 

[Michael Watts]

Ridiculous that any of this has to be thought about.. what bonehead thought this was a good idea...

• NEW – dynamic race-end timer feature. In public races, the timer is 50% of the slowest moving car's lap time. In private races, the timer is 75% of slowest moving car's lap time.

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LOL I know right.It would make sense if it were only for timed races, but not lap races. BTW Can't do 90 minute races....

 

[Michael Watts]

I'm also Reducing the Race Length by 1 lap. We will still have a Half-speed pace lap and start on Dottinger Straight.

7 Minute Lap x 13 = roughly 90 mins.

 

[2pfspiff]

Love the new tire physics. I had a half way decent car with little to no heating in the tires. Now after 1 lap my tires are starting to turn red. I did manage to get a 6:58 after resetting the set up to stock and then making some changes that Micheal suggested.

 

[EpilepticToast]

well this is gonna be interesting, not sure if I can push the softs to 6-7 but I'm gonna try. Tested mediums and hards but lost too much grip and started crashing. I guess I'll just change on the fly depending on how the tires go. Doesn't seem many are gonna show tonight, are any of the Audi's in? or the other AM guys? my tire temps are all hovering around 200-210 which is a little hot but I'll take that over risking other compounds. Really annoyed because I've torn a muscle in my neck and it's bloody painful to even turn my head right now, but I'll take some painkillers and I'll be there! Nice times spiff! at least I still have one buddy in an Aston lol. Michael, are we doing a cool down lap at the end(lap 14)? or just going super slow for half of the first pace lap so the timer is longer? Hope the race goes well for everyone...

 

[Michael Watts]

Slow first lap.. should do it. I had to adjust my setup the 0 DF on the front was killing my tires. So now I'm slow down the straights but the tires should be ok in the corners.

Edit: don't count out the Audi guys, they always just show up. Although I don't know how anyone can manage this track without testing the new tire model.

 

[Peter Hooper]

Good luck all of you that make this race... hoping there will be something to watch from it

BTW Nic what is the exact error message you get when trying to use Twitch? I got pretty friendly with one of the tech support guys at Twitch (he follows my races) and he might have an idea what your problem is if you can pass me that info.

 

[Michael Watts]

Peter, you should use your friendship to offer a suggestion for improvement and have an option to move the (Viewers watching) banner on the screen.

 

[MillsLayne]

This will be quite the challenge. This track is a killer for me to get a decent lap in since I can never remember all of the corners and different sections.

 

[Lucas Gortman]

I haven't got a lot of track time for this race. I've been busy playing fallout 4. I'm gonna hang back for most of the race and hope someone makes a mistake

 

[Dalai toma]

My tires are running in the 250 before the long straight. I might have to put 2 times

 

[Michael Watts]

My tires are running in the 250 before the long straight. I might have to put 2 times

...or you could just slow down