RD GT Championship 2010 II

[Florian Strauß]

Driver: Florian Strauß

1st: Pontiac GTO
2nd: Cadillac CTS-V
3rd: Chevrolet Corvette C6R

 

[Lee Palmer]

Driver: Lee Palmer
1st: Nissan Skyline GT-R
2nd: Dodge Viper CC
3rd: Aston Martin DBRS9

 

[Brian Clancy]

I am getting very excited about this league, should be awesome and nice to see so many guys from the WTM signing up too

 

[Remco de Wildt]

In the Cockpit FM episode of this week there is an announcement made about the RDGTC Season.

It is somewhere hidden in the 2nd half of the show :wink:

http://www.racedepartment.com/content/836-cockpit-fm-episode-14-released.html

 

[Caramidaru Andrei Bogdan]

Driver : Caramidaru Andrei Bogdan
1st:Aston Martin DBRS9
2nd:Nissan Skyline GT-R
3rd:Cadillac CTS-v

p.s.> i sing up without testing the cars,as i had no time,but seeing that so many are singing up, i did it to get a spot

Mod: I said already 4 times already that its not first come first serve base. So test the cars first.

 

[Harald Stadler]

I am also looking forward to this series. I think it will be a very good one full of competitive drivers. It will be my second series here at RD. Some of you I know from the WTM series, remembering hard but fair races and epic battles. With most of you it will be the first time that we race against. But I am sure, it will be as good and fair as in the WTM.

Now, I am wondering about the car choices. What car is the preffered one? Maybe can something be read out from a statistic? Let's have a look:



This list shows the car choices until Jari's sign-up, sorted by 1st choice, 2nd choice, 3rd choice. What can be seen (just personal thoughts, nothing objective! :wink: ):

- A bit surprising for me is, that the Mustang has no 1st choice count. It is not that bad, imho. On my personal list, It was the fourth car. It has some behaviours which I personally cannot handle that good, so it fell out my top 3. But others should handle it easily. So it's a bit surprising that no one takes it as 1st choice.
- The Viper is either fully loved or not considered - with most of you not considering the Viper. This car has some "special" attitudes, especially when braking, which some love and can handle, most not I think... The good position in the top half of the list comes from the few "lovers" choosing it as first choice.
- The Porsche is number one. Really not surprising. :wink: It is a good, stable AND fast car. So it's logical that it is chosen 1st or at least 2nd. No 3rd choice selection shows me that it might be either selected as first want or as alternative if someone has another good alternative but don't want to be "just another Porsche driver" (like me :wink: ). Also, there should be a coin flip or a admin decision which driver of the five has to use his second choice...
- A bit surprising for me is that the Nissan is selected that much and Cadillac and Pontiac are not that popular. The Nissan is the only car in the field where I thought "Der geht mal garnicht" (german saying for "this one is not working" in terms of "full crap" :wink: ). Cadillac and Pontiac are the opposite: stable, easy to drive and quite fast even with the standard setup. I hurried with my sign-up, because I wanted the Cadillac and was certain that I would not be the only one wanting it. But with only three 1st choices and one 3rd choice, it was not needed to hurry... But with Ben selecting the car also as 1st choice it shows me that I was not that wrong. :wink:
- The Corvette and the Aston are quite the same. Good and stable cars, but in my opinion not that competitive than for example Porsche, Caddi and the GTO. The Vette has imho a slight advantage in stability over the Aston. And as the Vette is generally a very popular car (I thought...) it is a bit surprising that it is seldom selected compared with the Aston which is second in the list and first in overall choices...

The way I did my selection: I drove every car with it's standard setup for the same amount of laps (three timed laps) on the same track. I drove on the original ISI track Nürburgring GP, as it has a good variety of corners. Then I based my decision on the laptimes and on the car behavior with focus on the estimated effort I personally need to improve the setup. The more difficult the car handled, the more time I need to improve the setup. On the other hand, if the car was already handling quite well but another car handled not so good but was as fast, I preferred the more difficult car, because it has more potential in the setup. For example, that's the reason why the Pontiac is number three on my list: It was as fast as Porsche and Cadillac, but "too easy" compared to them... Only between Porsche and Cadillac it was a bit a "sympathy decision"... The Porsche was a bit more difficult to drive, but just a small fraction slower than the Cadillac, so the logical decision would have been Porsche 1st, Cadillac 2nd. But I have to drive a Porsche in an upcoming Porsche 24h event (with training and training and training with it) and I am sure that I cannot see Porsches for a while, so I preferred the Cadillac.

 

[Ivo Simons]

Yup also suprised that the Mustang isnt chosen that much. Its the same as the Vette and the Aston but handles better.
But maybe it has it looks against him.
For me was the first choice the Vette or Caddy. Chose the Vette racing wise was more consistent with it and it was more stable under braking for me then the Caddy even when the Caddy was maybe some tenths quicker over a hotlap.


Edit: Some people listen to the Podcast btw? Arround 57 min.

 

[Jari Vinnari]

To me the worst part of the Mustang is the engine sound. I would go mental if I had to listen that engine whine for 55 minutes.

 

[Amir Margalit]

i haven't tried this mod yet. what is the diffrence between this mod and the cars i already have from race on\gtr evo? is it any better? should i try it altough i have the same cars in the other game?

 

[Ivo Simons]

I recommend to try it first indeed. Cars feel very different then Evo.

 

[Brian Clancy]

Nice testing report Harald

I too tried all the cars, at first my number one choise was the Skyline, but as I continued to drive all the others, it became apparent, that for my odd, one leg style of driving, the Corvette was much, MUCH faster for me and was more stable once I had worked on a good 'basic setup':wink:.

My time gap from me and Greg is about the same as my usual efforts in WTM at similar track, so I think I have made a good 1st choise (I hope loool)

 

[Harald Stadler]

Yup also suprised that the Mustang isnt chosen that much. Its the same as the Vette and the Aston but handles better.

Right. On my short test it was the fourth quickest car, in front of Vette and Aston.

But maybe it has it looks against him.

Maybe. I know, some people decide more on looks or sounds than on performance :wink: But not me (not if I want to be competitive). But I have to admit that the Mustang is...ehm...not the most beautiful car in the list. In the showroom he looks quite good, but in replays (as in streams) on track...no...not really...

 

[Ryan Walker]

Ryan Walker

PORSCHE 996
ASTON DBRS9
NISSAN SKYLINE GT#R

 

[Dan Long]

you mind if I change my car choice guys??

 

[Ivo Simons]

Free to do.

 

[Gary Lennon]

Driver: Gary Lennon
1st: 996
2nd: Aston Martin DBRS9
3rd: Skyline GT-R​

 

[Jan Wikström]

Driver : Jan Wikström
1st: Dodge Viper
2nd: Porsche 996
3rd: Chevrolet Corvette

 

[Stefan Werner]

With the skin deadline in mind, when will we find out which car we have been assigned? Perhaps it has been mentioned already, but I didn't see anything in the info thread.

 

[Remco de Wildt]

The final entry list will be announced 3 or 4 November. When released there will also be a livery thread created with instructions how to submit your skin.

 

[Douglas Aird]

Any tips on how to brake in these cars without sudden lock-ups and spins? I'm having real problems. Do you need to blip the throttle on the downshifts (which I find tricky) or is it just a matter of adjusting the brake bias? It just seems that no matter how light I press the brake pedal I feel it will lock at any minute.

I was thinking about putting my name forward for this league but if I can't sort this out I'll be too embarrassed to participate!

For the record I'm not a complete noob, I've taken part in GTR2 league races over at NoGrip and a couple of GTR Evo Mini Friday races here.