2021 Formula One Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

Slapped · Dec 11, 2021

Zolazem said:
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Honestly that is in all probability true. Compared to Mercedes every other car on the grid is a Rent-a-Wreck.

Edit - That's not doing Hamilton down at all, but IMO Verstappen looks like he is shaping up to be the next Senna.

Deleted member 379375 · Dec 11, 2021

Slapped said:
Honestly that is in all probability true. Compared to Mercedes every other car on the grid is a Rent-a-Wreck.

Edit - That's not doing Hamilton down at all, but IMO Verstappen looks like he is shaping up to be the next Senna.

And if not we can just say Lewis had the faster car

thepharcyde · Dec 11, 2021

Cannot wait for tomorrow. Humbling interview by Hamilton post quali, and shame on all of the booers.

Will be happy if either drivers win tomorrow, just hoping for some epic clean fair racing.

Potentially seeing McLaren on the podium again will also be the icing on the cake. Nando will make his mum well proud.

Epic epic season.

Bram Hengeveld · Dec 11, 2021

Lesley Buurlage said:
I'm getting so sick and tired of the booing, wether it's towards Lewis or Max... I always loved how racing fans could sit among eachother and enjoy themselves, now it's becoming more and more like football which is just sad. can't deny that the dutch fans have had some influence in this but i hope that the actual fans know better than this

I'll say it here first: next year we will see the first fights on the grandstands between "fans" just like with (football) hooligans. F1 has unfortunately attracted the wrong crowd during lockdown it seems.

Incredible how stupid some of these clowns behave on a race track. I hope FOM / FIA will do everything possible to get rid of them asap.

muzikant · Dec 11, 2021

I hope Max wins his first championship! The British press has really disturbed me this week with the video clip merry christmas. and if Max is the only one who drives dirty.. blah.. blah they really did everything they could to get him off balance But Max just stays sober 24 years respect for that then you are very strong just like on Zandvoort

If not.. he has at least shown this season that he can challenge Hamilton in a lesser car. So for me Max is the champion and he deserves it. But Lewis is quite lucky the rocket merc is the best car without a doubt so I'm crossing my fingers

Milos · Dec 11, 2021

muzikant said:
But Lewis is quite lucky ce merc is the best car without a doubt so I'm crossing my fingers

Merc is probably still faster in the race I think. We only got pole because Max's lap was perfect, the perfect tow, and Lewis did make some small mistakes on both of his laps, imo.
But overall, for the closeness of the championship it's definetly better that Max is leading, and that Bottas is out of the game, so he can't provide much assistance to Lewis.
I predict Checo will hold up the pack behind Lewis (and Lando) to allow Max to pit safely, as he will have to pit before Lewis. Then, depending on whether Max opts for 1 stop or 2 stop, we can have a proper race at the end with one catching the other on fresher tyres.

Damage Inc · Dec 11, 2021

Had my attention drawn to a VERY interesting article....good reading for some Hamilton fans to get a bit of perspective regarding dangerous driving etc.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/l...8GN_dnt7YoMIHGXrnPhSN88VTpo6oSOo24jhzaMqylaJc

Also I had a thought (just a little back of the head thing

) Lando's posted a lot on social media supporting Hamilton and critical of Max.....Lando has a Merc engine in his McLaren and sits right behind Max, a bit late on the brakes and he can gift Lewis the WDC!! (hopefully not, tin foil hat stuff!).

Ryann · Dec 11, 2021

thepharcyde said:
Cannot wait for tomorrow. Humbling interview by Hamilton post quali, and shame on all of the booers.

Will be happy if either drivers win tomorrow, just hoping for some epic clean fair racing.

Potentially seeing McLaren on the podium again will also be the icing on the cake. Nando will make his mum well proud.

Epic epic season.

Why would Alonso's mother be proud if McLaren wins the podium?

RandomMallard · Dec 11, 2021

Damage Inc said:
Had my attention drawn to a VERY interesting article....good reading for some Hamilton fans to get a bit of perspective regarding dangerous driving etc.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/l...8GN_dnt7YoMIHGXrnPhSN88VTpo6oSOo24jhzaMqylaJc

Also I had a thought (just a little back of the head thing ) Lando's posted a lot on social media supporting Hamilton and critical of Max.....Lando has a Merc engine in his McLaren and sits right behind Max, a bit late on the brakes and he can gift Lewis the WDC!! (hopefully not, tin foil hat stuff!).

Not trying to start a comment war are we?

But this article does show one thing: everyone makes mistakes. Max has made some pretty big ones in the last few races, but Lewis has made plenty in the past as well (2011 being a very notable year with many incidents in it). Max's braking in Saudi was reckless and dangerous, and he was penalised for it. It just so happened that the penalty had no effect (which isn't unusual). I think 10 seconds was probably fair, although I would have rather seen a grid penalty.

I don't think it warranted a DSQ, or ban, or anything like that unless it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was deliberate, which would be extremely difficult. I'm using the beyond reasonable standard of proof because I expect any punishment like that would end up either at the very top of the FIA courts, or the Court of Arbitration for Sport (or potentially even further), where proper legal standards apply. If they can prove it was deliberate, then DSQ him, ban him; he would deserve it. But unless you can meet that standard of proof it will be very difficult to apply such a penalty.

Dethrone1427 · Dec 11, 2021

Damage Inc said:
Had my attention drawn to a VERY interesting article....good reading for some Hamilton fans to get a bit of perspective regarding dangerous driving etc.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/l...8GN_dnt7YoMIHGXrnPhSN88VTpo6oSOo24jhzaMqylaJc

Also I had a thought (just a little back of the head thing ) Lando's posted a lot on social media supporting Hamilton and critical of Max.....Lando has a Merc engine in his McLaren and sits right behind Max, a bit late on the brakes and he can gift Lewis the WDC!! (hopefully not, tin foil hat stuff!).

That's what I hope for Max. I was watching the 2011 BBC review on YouTube the other night and I thought that Lewis and his driving that season (granted he had a massive amount of distractions that season, Nicole's fine ass, management reshuffle, dad being shuffled out the equation and no family attending races). But his Monaco antics in particular made me think that maybe Max will grow out of this, because I'm sorry, I know Max fans are going to come flying out the wood work pitch forks aloft, but his driving this season has been genuinely worrying at times. With a level of disdain for others he goes wheel to wheel with. Much like Lewis in 2011. Ask Felipe! Here's hoping Max blossoms into something even more incredible than he is now -THAT would be something. We face a future full of battles with LeClerc/Lando/George and possibly Ocon once Lewis retires and leaves Merc.

Bogo265 · Dec 11, 2021

Unless Lewis has a much better start then Max, Lewis won't take the risk of passing Max in turn one, and if no yellow flags play a factor should win on strategy. Max will need to either back Lewis up enough to bring others into play, which is not how Max races, or put in quali laps all race in order to pass Lewis on track at the very end of the race on a two stop strategy with soft, soft, hard tires, with Lewis on a one stop with medium, hard. Although Max did a great job getting pole, not starting on mediums takes strategy out of his hands a fare bit. Track position is still a good thing, but he will have to be on the ragged edge all race, which will risk reliability, spinning, and mistakes in the pit lane. Pretty stressful, but that's why these guys are the best. Or, something completely unforeseen can happen, as this is real life racing and not a sim haha. If Max pulls it off I'll be the first one to be very happy for him as a hard core Lewis fan. To me, whether Lewis wins is not important. If you are a true racing fan you watch because you love racing, and can also recognize and appreciate the talent that different guys posses, regardless of who you cheer for, or where you are from. This season has been epic, and it will be all but over tomorrow. Let's just hope next year is half as exciting as this one. Enjoy the race everyone!

Slapped · Dec 11, 2021

winston malcolm said:
And if not we can just say Lewis had the faster car

Well, based on current form he does, admittedly by smaller margin than previously, but still.

I'm not questioning the talent of either driver. Both have done some equally astounding drives, in both last season and this.

I just hope the championship is decided on track rather than off track.

Brent Mills · Dec 11, 2021

Lesley Buurlage said:
I'm getting so sick and tired of the booing, wether it's towards Lewis or Max... I always loved how racing fans could sit among eachother and enjoy themselves, now it's becoming more and more like football which is just sad. can't deny that the dutch fans have had some influence in this but i hope that the actual fans know better than this

Completely agree, I am 100% supporting Max, but not respecting the opposition is sickening. How the hell did this loutish behaviour infect racing, I thought it was the gentleman's sport.

thepharcyde · Dec 11, 2021

Ryann said:
Why would Alonso's mother be proud if McLaren wins the podium?

What?

Ryann · Dec 11, 2021

thepharcyde said:
What?

Nando = FerNando Alonso

Brent Mills · Dec 11, 2021

Bogo265 said:
Unless Lewis has a much better start then Max, Lewis won't take the risk of passing Max in turn one, and if no yellow flags play a factor should win on strategy. Max will need to either back Lewis up enough to bring others into play, which is not how Max races, or put in quali laps all race in order to pass Lewis on track at the very end of the race on a two stop strategy with soft, soft, hard tires, with Lewis on a one stop with medium, hard. Although Max did a great job getting pole, not starting on mediums takes strategy out of his hands a fare bit. Track position is still a good thing, but he will have to be on the ragged edge all race, which will risk reliability, spinning, and mistakes in the pit lane. Pretty stressful, but that's why these guys are the best. Or, something completely unforeseen can happen, as this is real life racing and not a sim haha. If Max pulls it off I'll be the first one to be very happy for him as a hard core Lewis fan. To me, whether Lewis wins is not important. If you are a true racing fan you watch because you love racing, and can also recognize and appreciate the talent that different guys posses, regardless of who you cheer for, or where you are from. This season has been epic, and it will be all but over tomorrow. Let's just hope next year is half as exciting as this one. Enjoy the race everyone!

Nice post, I for one feel like a kid on Christmas eve.

Jugulador · Dec 11, 2021

If the attorney of the Fluminense don't get involved again, Max will be the 2021 champion.

pcraenme · Dec 11, 2021

Brent Mills said:
Completely agree, I am 100% supporting Max, but not respecting the opposition is sickening. How the hell did this loutish behaviour infect racing, I thought it was the gentleman's sport.

I think the media (e.g. that merry christmas commercial from Sky Sports is just one example), but also the F1 teams themselves play a big part in this. And don’t forget the toxic social media, which we did not have before on previous rivalries between 2 drivers. And unfortunately others sports have become worse as well… when spectators returned to the stadiums this year in Dutch soccer stadiums, a small part was behaving very poorly. These people are no fans… they are just hooligans.

davehenrie · Dec 11, 2021

BrainsBush said:
No context needed. Just completely wrong. Hope we all can agree with that:
Like Bjorn wrote --> Ashamed

https://twitter.com/x/status/1466771580655132680

I did notice they left out any images that showed Lewis caused that 'gift.'

Durge Driven · Dec 11, 2021

TAB here has Lewis and Max dead even @ $1.95

1	Max VERSTAPPEN	Red Bull	1:22.109
2	Lewis HAMILTON	Mercedes	1:22.480
3	Lando NORRIS	McLaren	1:22.931
4	Sergio PÉREZ	Red Bull	1:22.947
5	Carlos SAINZ	Ferrari	1:22.992
6	Valtteri BOTTAS	Mercedes	1:23.036
7	Charles LECLERC	Ferrari	1:23.122
8	Yuki TSUNODA	Alpha Tauri	1:23.220
9	Esteban OCON	Alpine	1:23.389
10	Daniel RICCIARDO	McLaren	1:23.409
11	Fernando ALONSO	Alpine	1:23.460
12	Pierre GASLY	Alpha Tauri	1:24.043
13	Lance STROLL	Aston Martin	1:24.066
14	Antonio GIOVINAZZI	Alfa Romeo	1:24.251
15	Sebastian VETTEL	Aston Martin	1:24.305
16	Nicholas LATIFI	Williams	1:24.338
17	George RUSSELL	Williams	1:24.423
18	Kimi RÄIKKÖNEN	Alfa Romeo	1:24.779
19	Mick SCHUMACHER	Haas	1:24.906
20	Nikita MAZEPIN	Haas	1:25.685

1	Max VERSTAPPEN	Red Bull	LAP 58
2	Lewis HAMILTON	Mercedes	2.256
3	Carlos SAINZ	Ferrari	5.173
4	Yuki TSUNODA	Alpha Tauri	5.692
5	Pierre GASLY	Alpha Tauri	6.531
6	Valtteri BOTTAS	Mercedes	7.463
7	Lando NORRIS	McLaren	59.2
8	Fernando ALONSO	Alpine	61.708
9	Esteban OCON	Alpine	64.026
10	Charles LECLERC	Ferrari	66.057
11	Sebastian VETTEL	Aston Martin	67.527
12	Daniel RICCIARDO	McLaren	+1L
13	Lance STROLL	Aston Martin	+1L
14	Mick SCHUMACHER	Haas	+1L
15	Sergio PÉREZ	Red Bull	DNF
16	Nicholas LATIFI	Williams	DNF
17	Antonio GIOVINAZZI	Alfa Romeo	DNF
18	George RUSSELL	Williams	DNF
19	Kimi RÄIKKÖNEN	Alfa Romeo	DNF

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