2012 HRT F112

[Hampus Andersson]

It is a joke of a team. I would be embarrassed to even be affiliated with the team any any shape or form.

It looks like they just don´t know what the H they are doing.

 

[Xosé Estrada]

And still they beat Virgin two years in a row.

So what is Virgin then?

 

[Markus Neumann]

In 2011, they only beat them because Karthikeyan went kamikaze on Glock in Canada, letting Liuzzi through. For the teams that finish the season with zero points, a good car is less important than luck...

 

[ufunacaoenn]

This team have atleast shown progress from 2010 to 2011 and now to 2012. Marussia in the other hand didn't show any kind of improvment from 2010 to 2011.

 

[Ivo Simons]

These teams are pointless imo. They just dont have enough money or resources to be a decent F1 team.
Then they should question themself if they need to be there in the paddock and are a asset to F1.

 

[Chris Jenkins]

You say that but Marussia are already lining themselves up with more resources for 2013.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

And still they beat Virgin two years in a row.

So what is Virgin then?

Same deal. They should not be in F1 imo. Lotus seems like the only one actually making the step but we are not so sure about that just yet.

 

[Chris Jenkins]

Marussia and HRT just need stability in their investors. Not having ownership changes every year that knocks them back to square one.

 

[GAIAjohan]

I am happy with Virgin and HRT. they are a kind of Minardi of this era. We need such teams.

 

[Ole Marius Myrvold]

Keke Rosberg said it good some days ago.

“You have to start somewhere; you can’t come along and be Ferrari. And there is a need for the small teams, otherwise you would just have McLaren, Ferrari and Red Bull. You need the top teams, the midfield teams and the small teams. Hopefully one day they can develop into a big team — remember Stewart became Jaguar and finally Red Bull.”

 

[Kyle Puttifer]

I've always had a soft spot for HRT and for Virgin/Marussia to a lesser extent. And if they do get their 2 test days in Barca then that is a step forward from last year.

 

[Kevin Cordice]

For me i thing there is nothing wrong the the smaller teams it is good for the sport, but what i want for them is not to be blocking the front runners in qualifying and race's if its not necessary.

 

[William Levesque]

The problem with small teams nowadays is that it just cost way too much money...

 

[Hampus Andersson]

They should be lucky the price is this low..

€ 199 million - 2011, Ferrari
€ 331 million - 2008, Toyota

 

[ufunacaoenn]

They should be lucky the price is this low..

€ 199 million - 2011, Ferrari
€ 331 million - 2008, Toyota

Is that numbers of the budget each team has????

 

[Hampus Andersson]

Is that numbers of the budget each team has????

That is what they spent that season,

 

[Hampus Andersson]

In 2008 it looked like this,

Toyota: $445.6m
McLaren: $433.3m
Ferrari: $414.9m
Honda: $398.1m
Renault: $393.8m
BMW Sauber: $366.8m
Red Bull Racing: $164.7m
Williams: $160.6m
Toro Rosso: $128.2m
Force India: $121.85m
Super Aguri: $45.6m
Total: $3,073.45m

 

[Chris Jenkins]

That is some crazy spending!

This is the 2011 version

Ferrari: $166.3m
Mercedes: $137.6m
McLaren: $137.2m
Red Bull: $132.3m
Renault: $102.3m
Williams: $79.6m
Force India: $77.1m
Toro Rosso: $67.4m
Team Lotus: $60.6m
Virgin Racing: $41.1m
Hispania: $32.5m
Total: $1034.3m

Good to see that F1's cost-saving measures have worked in the past 3-4 years.

 

[S4Sonny]

Noticed Sauber isn't listed.

How much did they spend?

 

[Hampus Andersson]

Can´t find any numbers but i would guess somewhere in the Williams-Toro Rosso bracket.