2014 Formula One Australian Grand Prix

Ho3n3r · Mar 16, 2014

Milos Ancevski said:
Are you a RB fan? Sorry then, I didn't know what to write

Yes, as you've always seen. But Red Bull have messed up here, if they are guilty, so I'm criticising them, as you do when they get it wrong.

As they did with Vettel in Abu Dhabi 2012. But I'm sure your finger hating self has forgotten about this

Bram Hengeveld · Mar 16, 2014

Predicted Rosberg as the winner

Where can I collect the money?

Ho3n3r · Mar 16, 2014

Bram Hengeveld said:
Predicted Rosberg as the winner Where can I collect the money?

At Bernie's

Bram Hengeveld · Mar 16, 2014

Thx

Richard Eriksson · Mar 16, 2014

My 2 cents: RB doing a bordeline cheating attempt using the second car, and getting caught. The reason for stretching the rules here would be to find a "grey area" that would be harder to scrutinize and useable on the no. 1 car ( Seb ).

Poor Dan has to act as a possible scapegoat in RBs engineering hunt for grey area cheating.

The statement that rb changed the fuel flow meter while the car was in parc ferme issued by some fia technician adds fuel (hehe) to the fire... Sad mess.

Jacob Fræer · Mar 16, 2014

The fuel flow meter can be changed during the race from the computers in the pit lane, it's not part of the parc ferme. We saw Magnussen switching between high mixture and low mixture, switching between gaining and losing time to Ricciardo.

Alberto Casado · Mar 16, 2014

Jacob Fræer said:
The fuel flow meter can be changed during the race from the computers in the pit lane, it's not part of the parc ferme. We saw Magnussen switching between high mixture and low mixture, switching between gaining and losing time to Ricciardo.

I don't think magnusen was changing the fuel flow _meter_ during race. That would be a feat.

Chris Brand · Mar 16, 2014

Milos Ancevski said:
Poor Daniel... after an amazing drive, and all the happy fans, he really doesn't deserve this. Why did Red Bull screw up? This doesn't happen with Vettel.

Because Vettel's car ran a charm today and not a single thing went wrong with it at all because Red Bull never screw up with his car ever.

Richard Eriksson · Mar 16, 2014

Jacob Fræer said:
The fuel flow meter can be changed during the race from the computers in the pit lane, it's not part of the parc ferme. We saw Magnussen switching between high mixture and low mixture, switching between gaining and losing time to Ricciardo.

They can of course change the mapping. But the meter itself is a part supplied according to FIA specs, and these clearly states that the MAF meter can not allow a flow greater than 100kg/h at any time.

This would be your 100% mapping in car. Then you can regulate this as it is obvious that 100kgs max fuel load combined with 1.5 hrs of racing would require less usage.

The fuss in this DQ case is however that the meter would have allowed for a flow surpassing the max limit.

Jacob Fræer · Mar 16, 2014

Yes but it just sounded like you thought the flow meter was set before the race, as a parc ferme.

Ray Lexes · Mar 16, 2014

Ok now it's Offical: Ricciardo has been disqualified

Tom · Mar 16, 2014

Ray Lexes said:
Ok now it's Offical: Ricciardo has been disqualified

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/2...alified-from-the-results-of-the-australian-gp

Yep. Sad for Australia.

Tom

Richard Eriksson · Mar 16, 2014

Jacob Fræer said:
Yes but it just sounded like you thought the flow meter was set before the race, as a parc ferme.

Changed as in "replaced"

Richard Eriksson · Mar 16, 2014

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/03/16/stewards-detail-reasons-ricciardos-disqualification/

The ruling details of the DQ. RB where warned during the race, and chose to ignore the FIA.

This arrogance will be their downfall. Don't see how they can appeal this...

António da Cunha · Mar 16, 2014

I am sad for Massa and on the other hand happy for Bottas. The Fin did a great race, put a smile on my face and almost made me forget the Massa incident. Williams seem to have a competitive car this time, hoping for good things this year.

Go Williams.

Richard Eriksson · Mar 16, 2014

Yeah. Williams are getting a bit overshadowed by other things in the discussions post race, but Bottas recovery following his incident really indicates that they have a strong package at the start of the season.

Bottas may even be a contender for some podium finishes. As this year is so extremely important to Williams as a team i am really hoping that they can keep the pace.

Shane Butler · Mar 16, 2014

Milos Ancevski said:
They just screw up the 2nd car on purpouse. You saw Webber in the last few yrs

No.

Paul Brennan · Mar 16, 2014

According to horner, sounds like the fia sensor is ****...hes confident his injection data will prove otherwise...cos afterall its not like RB have a history of pushing the boundaries. ..shoud be them with the white colour scheme...we will see

Richard Eriksson · Mar 16, 2014

Paul Brennan said:
According to horner, sounds like the fia sensor is ****...hes confident his injection data will prove otherwise...cos afterall its not like RB have a history of pushing the boundaries. ..shoud be them with the white colour scheme...we will see

Interestingly no other team had problems keeping under the usage limits using what is supposed to be an homologated piece of tech.

So i'm really not buying that. This in combination with the strange engine problems for Vettel and also their reliability issues, tells me that Red Bull is messing in the grey areas as usual.

I seriously believe that all the troubles facing them are in fact due to Newey and the engineers seriously bending some rules, resulting in the mess they have now.

However, all this comes as a calculated risk, as when they find the undetactable AND reliable ways of breaking the rules (or bending them a lot) they will be fastest again.

Looking back, this is a fine tradition in the sport...

Salut Gilles · Mar 16, 2014

Richard Eriksson said:
Interestingly no other team had problems keeping under the usage limits using what is supposed to be an homologated piece of tech.

So i'm really not buying that. This in combination with the strange engine problems for Vettel and also their reliability issues, tells me that Red Bull is messing in the grey areas as usual.

I seriously believe that all the troubles facing them are in fact due to Newey and the engineers seriously bending some rules, resulting in the mess they have now.

However, all this comes as a calculated risk, as when they find the undetactable AND reliable ways of breaking the rules (or bending them a lot) they will be fastest again.

Looking back, this is a fine tradition in the sport...

It's pretty clear also, that the FIA doesn't want another 4-year-long (or more) of Vettel-RB's domination. It seems they want to break that tradition too...