Cars KTM XBB 2015 1.51

Cpt_Looping · Dec 1, 2018

Cpt_Looping submitted a new resource:

KTM XBB 2015 - KTM X-Bow Battle 2015

KTM X-Bow Battle 2015

KTM X-Bow R prepared for the 2015 X Bow Battle Championship.
XBB series: http://www.x-bow-battle.at/en/homepage/

This mod uses the KTM X-Bow R from Kunos as a...

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leclettico · Dec 1, 2018

CM tell me that the model is obsolet and crashed.

leclettico · Dec 1, 2018

Solved with head parameter fix by CM

Cpt_Looping · Dec 1, 2018

Thx for sharing

After_Midnight · Dec 1, 2018

-edit-

Billy Pilgrim · Dec 2, 2018

leclettico said:
CM tell me that the model is obsolet and crashed.

Yes, i'm getting this
Model is obsolete, please consider updating flames to the second version.
It seems CM is attempting to solve the issue but is taking a while to do it.

edit (ten mins later) looks like CM can't fix it. CM crashes too

leclettico · Dec 2, 2018

Billy Pilgrim said:
Yes, i'm getting this
Model is obsolete, please consider updating flames to the second version.
It seems CM is attempting to solve the issue but is taking a while to do it.

edit (ten mins later) looks like CM can't fix it. CM crashes too

I reloaded CM and fix the car before the start of the race, in the content tab with "analyze" option.

Cpt_Looping · Dec 2, 2018

I do not understand, I have no worries with cm, I will investigate ..

Cpt_Looping · Dec 2, 2018

Did you respect the intalation procedure of the mod?

How to Instal :

This mod uses the KTM X-Bow R from Kunos as a basis for development. The 3D model and all animation files are not provided.

Download the mod, book it.
Go to ..:\steam\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars
Copy the folder "ktm_xbow_r" and paste it on ..:\steam\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars to create "ktm_xbow_r - Copie"
Rename "ktm_xbow_r - Copie" on "ktm_xbb"
Open "ktm_xbb" and delete 3 folders : sfx, skin, ui and data.acd files.
Open mod, copy and paste "ktm_xbb" mod on ..:\steam\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars

The Zman · Dec 2, 2018

Followed directions exactly - all other mods work fine.
This crashes at Practice, Race screen.

Mascot · Dec 2, 2018

Works for me. Weird.

Billy Pilgrim · Dec 2, 2018

leclettico said:
I reloaded CM and fix the car before the start of the race, in the content tab with "analyze" option.

That worked for me. Thanks

Tibor Solyom · Dec 2, 2018

Cpt_Looping said:
Did you respect the intalation procedure of the mod?

How to Instal :

This mod uses the KTM X-Bow R from Kunos as a basis for development. The 3D model and all animation files are not provided.

Download the mod, book it.

Go to ..:\steam\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars

Copy the folder "ktm_xbow_r" and paste it on ..:\steam\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars to create "ktm_xbow_r - Copie"

Rename "ktm_xbow_r - Copie" on "ktm_xbb"

Open "ktm_xbb" and delete 3 folders : sfx, skin, ui and data.acd files.

Open mod, copy and paste "ktm_xbb" mod on ..:\steam\steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars

Did exactly this, but doesn't work unfortunately. It crashes while the car is loading.
(I don't use CM.)

Gero Mulkau · Dec 3, 2018

Is this Mod legal to the rules of Racedepartment?

Kunos did not allow to open or modify their data.acd

Cpt_Looping · Dec 3, 2018

During the 1st release of the mod I had contacted kunos via official forum. I wanted to present them the car and to propose it in the download on the official forum. They refused for the distribution on the official forum but did not forbid me to spread and to use the car for our community. She was moreover of use to several opportunity. Later I conceive that this mod is limit limit ...

Fat-Alfie · Dec 3, 2018

Did they actually give you permission to distribute their work on RD? Or did they just say 'not to be distributed on the official AC forum'?

They are very different things, in my opinion.

formulaHEINE · Dec 3, 2018

@Cpt_Looping
Was the original 'data.acd' from Kunos xBox extracted and data used from it in the creation of this mod? If yes, then it would be considered as ripped content.

Or did you get any extracted data directly from Kunos?

Fat-Alfie · Dec 3, 2018

I don't see a problem to make this kind of mod for personal enjoyment (I recently made a modified Praga R1, to match the real Praga R1S) but it should not be made public like this unless all the work / data is your own. That's just my opinion, of course

Ghoults · Dec 3, 2018

The 919 evo has also reworked physics based on kunos' data.acd and that has been here in rd for ages. If the 919 evo is ok then I see no problem with this either. Technically it is understandable imho. Even if you are sharing the physics it is not the original files as they were in the kunos car. The xbow iirc is also default content so it is not like it is dlc car parts shared here.

Personally I just don't see much issues as long as (edited) 3d models are not shared and data.acd stays packed although at this point in time everybody knows how to bypass that. In the grand scheme of things you are basically just downloading altered data.acd for the ktm which you already have. There is no damage to kunos or ac. In fact I'd like to see someone make true gt1 physics for the maserati mc12 for example. That being said it would be really really slippery slope as if you allow that then technically you'd have people feel like they can use complete kunos car physics files in their other mod cars as well. Hard to draw the line between alternate physics for existing cars and altered physics for new cars when in reality about the same much of the parameters in physics files is changed in both cases.

Cpt_Looping · Dec 3, 2018

I agree with Ghoults. Sharing is based on a car that is available in AC. I only provided the modified files and very clearly displays the origins of the model.

An important point, any changes are made with specific data. The physics of kunos being excellent, I applied myself not to degrade it and to remain faithful to the original model.
It is a proven mod, which has made these proofs on various championship and open. It would be a shame not to share it. After that if it raises concerns, I let the RD admins contact me and I understand perfectly

And to answer Fat-Alfie, here's a copy / paste of kunos's answer when I introduced them to the car and asked if I could share it on the official forum:

Dear Cpt_Looping,
thanks for your message. I'm sorry but modding original content is not something that we want to see on this forum, so I ask you to avoid its advertisement here, thanks for understanding.
Regards,"