New eau-rouge radillon ideas for more safity

[D4455raceautd]

Hey, since recent memory we have had huje recks at the eau rouge radilon, and recently we had a huge crash at the 24h of spa. Drivers have been saing that changes need to be made, some have said that there should be a change in barrier position to prevent cars geting sent into the middle of the track, and others have recomended to add a gravell trap on the inside, some ideas are good, some are bad such as slowing the corner or adding a chicane, so these is my representations of each ideas:

Gravel on the inside:

moved barrier:

Gravel ad barrier:

slower corner:

schicane:

 

[RasmusP]

Some good ideas! In my opinion that inside barrier needs to be moved so that cars that slide off to the left after the apex like at the 24h race recently are kept there and not slide back on the track.

Also the cars that go into the barrier on the right after the crest need to be stopped there so the F1 trajedy won't repeat.

Both changes are very expensive and almost impossible since there simply isn't more space due to.. Well, nature!

You'd need to make changes to the landscape on both sides, cut down trees and create new paths for spectators and side vehicles.

But hopefully this all will be done:

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In 2019, it was announced that Spa was to be granted a round of the FIM Endurance World Championship from 2022 onwards, necessitating upgrades in order to meet the FIM Grade C standard required. In October 2020, the circuit revealed its €80m project to renovate key parts of the circuit, including the creation of enlarged run off areas, some of which see the return of gravel traps, along with the addition of a number of new grandstands.

Centrepiece of the plans is a brand-new grandstand alongside the Raidillon, set to add 4,600 seats with views over the most iconic portion of the circuit and the endurance racing pit lane. Additional VIP boxes at other key locations and upgrades to the Endurance Tribune grandstand and adjoining bleachers will bring the new seating capacity up by 13,000, doubling the capacity of the track.

The full project will take 10 years to complete and is financed by €21m of the circuit’s own funds, a €29.5m bank loan and a €29.5m investment by Sogepa, the Walloon government’s investment company which also helps fund the Belgian Formula 1 Grand Prix.

The track layout will remain unaltered for cars, with the new enlarged run-offs featuring gravel traps to be inserted at La Source, the Raidillon, Blanchimont, Les Combes and finally Stavelot. This may finally cure some of the headaches caused by track limits controversies, albeit probably keeping trackside marshals busy recovering errant racers. At Turn 9, a new corner will be created to meet the requirements for FIM homologation, while the existing corner will be retained with adapted kerbing for car competition."

Source:

Spa-Francorchamps

Spa-Francorchamps is one of the classic race circuits beloved by drivers and spectators alike, where today the true essence of speed can be explored in spectacular style on a relatively safe and modern facility.

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[Interslice]

Magia Eau Rouge | Sokolim Okiem

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You can see on this pic the rather large bank of earth behind the existing tyre barriers. It seems to be the last 4 sections of tyre wall that is causing issues, launching cars back onto the track. Doesn't look that big a job to get that bit moved in to the left and replaced with gravel for a start. Some cars will miss the tyre wall, but the further the spinning car ends up down the kemmel the better surely.

 

[BillGuy]

One thing that kind of disturbed me when watching the videos of this recent incident was the number of cars that seemed like they were going through the crash site at a fairly fast speed before you started seeing cars going through at a significantly reduced pace.

This makes me wonder if perhaps some extra-large electronic signaling boards might be in order. Perhaps a pair at the bottom of the hill at Eau Rouge proper and maybe even another pair visible to drivers while they’re “pointed at the sky” going up the hill. This assumes, of course, that the actual layout of the complex doesn’t change.

Even if this idea wouldn’t have slowed down any of the following cars in this recent Aitken incident, one of the things it may do is help get marshals to the cars involved sooner. It just seemed to me like they had to wait quite a bit longer than they probably wanted to for an “all clear” to jump the barriers and start providing assistance. That could make a difference if there’s fire.

 

[D4455raceautd]

Some good ideas! In my opinion that inside barrier needs to be moved so that cars that slide off to the left after the apex like at the 24h race recently are kept there and not slide back on the track.

Also the cars that go into the barrier on the right after the crest need to be stopped there so the F1 trajedy won't repeat.

Both changes are very expensive and almost impossible since there simply isn't more space due to.. Well, nature!

You'd need to make changes to the landscape on both sides, cut down trees and create new paths for spectators and side vehicles.

But hopefully this all will be done:

"
In 2019, it was announced that Spa was to be granted a round of the FIM Endurance World Championship from 2022 onwards, necessitating upgrades in order to meet the FIM Grade C standard required. In October 2020, the circuit revealed its €80m project to renovate key parts of the circuit, including the creation of enlarged run off areas, some of which see the return of gravel traps, along with the addition of a number of new grandstands.

Centrepiece of the plans is a brand-new grandstand alongside the Raidillon, set to add 4,600 seats with views over the most iconic portion of the circuit and the endurance racing pit lane. Additional VIP boxes at other key locations and upgrades to the Endurance Tribune grandstand and adjoining bleachers will bring the new seating capacity up by 13,000, doubling the capacity of the track.

The full project will take 10 years to complete and is financed by €21m of the circuit’s own funds, a €29.5m bank loan and a €29.5m investment by Sogepa, the Walloon government’s investment company which also helps fund the Belgian Formula 1 Grand Prix.

The track layout will remain unaltered for cars, with the new enlarged run-offs featuring gravel traps to be inserted at La Source, the Raidillon, Blanchimont, Les Combes and finally Stavelot. This may finally cure some of the headaches caused by track limits controversies, albeit probably keeping trackside marshals busy recovering errant racers. At Turn 9, a new corner will be created to meet the requirements for FIM homologation, while the existing corner will be retained with adapted kerbing for car competition."

Source:

Spa-Francorchamps

Spa-Francorchamps is one of the classic race circuits beloved by drivers and spectators alike, where today the true essence of speed can be explored in spectacular style on a relatively safe and modern facility.

www.racingcircuits.info

yes, in my opinion the only change would have to be the barriers position and/or a gravel trap on the inside (apex) and outside (run off), thats the best way of doing it, because as weird and "interesting" as the corner changes do every one loves what we've got now, so eyah the point is add a gravel trap and/or change the barriers positions.

 

[Coen_1989]

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This makes me wonder if perhaps some extra-large electronic signaling boards might be in order. Perhaps a pair at the bottom of the hill at Eau Rouge proper and maybe even another pair visible to drivers while they’re “pointed at the sky” going up the hill. This assumes, of course, that the actual layout of the complex doesn’t change.

Even if this idea wouldn’t have slowed down any of the following cars in this recent Aitken incident, one of the things it may do is help get marshals to the cars involved sooner. It just seemed to me like they had to wait quite a bit longer than they probably wanted to for an “all clear” to jump the barriers and start providing assistance. That could make a difference if there’s fire.

Those electronic boards are already in place