Tracks Planning a Goodwood Hillclimb Track Mod

VRTSmith · Jul 6, 2017

So I've seen many, many threads on various sites saying how no-one has ever published or finished a Goodwood Hillclimb mod and this is starting to bug me. So I've decided to begin planning for the mod myself (If you want something done, do it yourself right?)

Now I'm no expert at 3D modelling so I won't be alone on this one. I have a friend who is quite talented at it so I'll be helping him make the mod as higher quality as possible.

As this is being written the mod has only just begun plannning and COULD be postponed or even suspended at any point during this time, but once it's underway I'll make sure to finish it.

I hope to hear from you all on your ideas about this!

Thanks, Jack.

Emery · Jul 6, 2017

Use http://environment.data.gov.uk/ds/survey/index.jsp#/survey to check for aerial lidar. There are some tricks to getting the UK data into a useable format, but I've not researched the steps.

VRTSmith · Jul 6, 2017

Emery said:
Use http://environment.data.gov.uk/ds/survey/index.jsp#/survey to check for aerial lidar. There are some tricks to getting the UK data into a useable format, but I've not researched the steps.

Ahh cheers pal, that should come in handy later on.

Thanks, Jack.

Deleted member 223075 · Jul 6, 2017

You talking about the race we can see at Goodwood Festival of Speed ?

Quite interesting if someone do it.

VRTSmith · Jul 6, 2017

Mahad said:
You talking about the race we can see at Goodwood Festival of Speed ?

Quite interesting if someone do it.

If by race you mean the hillclimb event then yes

Below is a link to a YouTube video showing the full length of the track if you haven't seen it already.

mantasisg · Jul 6, 2017

Fantastic news

I have a little bit of track modding knowlege, maybe I'll be able to help too, I hope. I am modeling with Blender software.

This hillclimb track is not huge, but there sure are tons of details, not going to be easy to finish it completely.

I will be looking forward, as I'm a big fan of Goodwood.

Deleted member 223075 · Jul 6, 2017

Jtshowden said:
If by race you mean the hillclimb event then yes

Yes, I was talking about this race. I just love it. It's a very good idea !

VRTSmith · Jul 7, 2017

mantasisg said:
Fantastic news I have a little bit of track modding knowlege, maybe I'll be able to help too, I hope. I am modeling with Blender software.

This hillclimb track is not huge, but there sure are tons of details, not going to be easy to finish it completely.

I will be looking forward, as I'm a big fan of Goodwood.

You are very welcome to help. The more the more the merrier! My friend currently doesn't have his PC due to a hard drive failure so help will be much appreciated

Willy Wale · Jul 7, 2017

Emery said:
Use http://environment.data.gov.uk/ds/survey/index.jsp#/survey to check for aerial lidar. There are some tricks to getting the UK data into a useable format, but I've not researched the steps.

Yes, LIDAR data is available for that area.

WW

mantasisg · Jul 7, 2017

0_o

@Willy Wale maybe for Goodwood circuit too ?

aphidgod · Jul 7, 2017

I'm all for the hillclimb but the circuit is where the awesome is.

VRTSmith · Jul 7, 2017

aphidgod said:
I'm all for the hillclimb but the circuit is where the awesome is.

I've just had an idea.

It may take a lot longer but maybe I can try to create a map that includes BOTH the Hillclimb and the circuit? You could either have the circuit, hillclimb or both (Open World).

I've already begun the layout of the hillclimb so adding to it will be easy.

Willy Wale · Jul 7, 2017

mantasisg said:
0_o

@Willy Wale maybe for Goodwood circuit too ?

aphidgod said:
I'm all for the hillclimb but the circuit is where the awesome is.

Yes, for the circuit too (most of the country in fact). But I think someone has already made the circuit.

WW

mantasisg · Jul 7, 2017

Jtshowden said:
I've just had an idea.

It may take a lot longer but maybe I can try to create a map that includes BOTH the Hillclimb and the circuit? You could either have the circuit, hillclimb or both (Open World).

It is sure interesting idea, but I think it is not really necessary, and adds amount of work and trouble which is just not worth it, IMO

Maybe just focus on what might be easier at first, which could be FOS hillclimb, though I guess it could be much harder to get 100% done than circuit, but probably would be easier to do first 90%, as it is smaller. but a lot of details, and very close to the road.

Willy Wale said:
Yes, for the circuit too (most of the country in fact). But I think someone has already made the circuit.

Yes there is a conversion from rFactor, which was a conversion from GPL (AFAIK). I doubt that it is made with that particular data, could I be wrong ? I have compared it with Google earth aerial photo, and that track model seems to be a bit too much off (not to mention outdated). @LilSki has been posting that google earth images can be very inacurrate too, but I wonder how much.

The red line is layout of the mod:

aphidgod · Jul 7, 2017

I agree with Mantas on both counts - that it's probably best to focus on the hillclimb for now, until you become more fluent in AC trackmaking, and also that the existing Goodwood Circuit is lacking.

But as a historic car nut, a proper GW Circuit is high on my wish list for sure.

Deleted member 223075 · Jul 7, 2017

The actual Goodwood circuit we have is really good, i use it to test many F1 cars. Just need little texture improvement.

LilSki · Jul 7, 2017

Mahad said:
The actual Goodwood circuit we have is really good, i use it to test many F1 cars. Just need little texture improvement.

Sorry but that is the funniest comment I've read in a while.

As for what Mantas said it is best not to use Google Earth to build anything. If there is lidar available it would be best to learn to use that first. Google Earth is only good for object placement and nothing more. There are times It can be close but if there is lidar for that area there is no point in risking it in my opinion.

I also agree with starting on the hill climb since it is a small track and would be great for a first time project.

Deleted member 223075 · Jul 8, 2017

LilSki said:
Sorry but that is the funniest comment I've read in a while.

As for what Mantas said it is best not to use Google Earth to build anything. If there is lidar available it would be best to learn to use that first. Google Earth is only good for object placement and nothing more. There are times It can be close but if there is lidar for that area there is no point in risking it in my opinion.

I also agree with starting on the hill climb since it is a small track and would be great for a first time project.

It is your opinion. I like to drive on this circuit and i think some people too. You don't like it but me yes. Also this is the only one Goodwood track we have.

If you can do better, just do it.

Deleted member 130869 · Jul 8, 2017

Mahad said:
It is your opinion. I like to drive on this circuit and i think some people too. You don't like it but me yes. Also this is the only one Goodwood track we have.

If you can do better, just do it.

Scarcity doesn't equate to quality, and the only available track was made back when quality and accuracy were not widespread standards. Also...

Mahad said:
If you can do better, just do it.

He has done much better

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/authors/lilski.218202/

aphidgod · Jul 8, 2017

The existing one is "good" in the sense that it is a fun layout and it's easy to enjoy your laps there. It's not good in any other sense... graphically, quality of road mesh, accuracy, etc. In any case... for now, the hillclimb.