RD GT Championship 2010 I

Raf Nix · May 12, 2010

Ries Notenboom said:
This better ain't gonna carry on to other leagues or events. :knife:

I'm sure it won't as I'm looking for just one league in the world using full simulation options like forced cockpit, no autos, same practice times for all for years now and had no success yet.
Made a post in the NGP forum the other day which explains that at least me do very few races only:
Ralf Eiden

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Hi Andreas,
if necessary at all I only take part in the 20 mins event as you know I'm not interested in the RD race server settings. Chase/bonnet view, auto clutch, don't like to compete with guys doing a hundreds laps practice being even supported through extra points for fastest Q n Race lap.
Last race i jumped in with 20 mins of practice and was 2.6 secs behind the fastest. After lap 1 or 2 I was 3rd cause most drivers were able to do a quick lap but seem to have difficulties to keep it for a 20 mins distance.
To be honest I've been touched a couple of times too often last race and prefer meet up with people who love racing rather than winning.

Bram Hengeveld · May 12, 2010

There were only a few scenario's to start this league:

Very early and end in the beginning of July
No league at all before September

Most people are on holidays during July and August. Therefore the schedule looks a bit weird including a one month gap (RDLMS weekend, Le Mans 24H weekend and other things that we need to take in account.).

Luckily you don't need to worry about skins and such as there are plenty of good skins available on the internet for every car if you really suffering from time. Good thing of Evo is that you can also run without a skin as the server won't mismatch like in other games.

Don't worry

Bram Hengeveld · May 12, 2010

Forced cockpitview thread is now merged with the chat thread

Peter Duivelaar · May 12, 2010

Is it possible to see who has signed up for the league?

Dave Stephenson · May 12, 2010

I would expect not untill decisions have been made about who will be given a spot. But I wouldn't quote me on that.

Danny Asbury · May 12, 2010

Dave Stephenson said:
I would expect not untill decisions have been made about who will be given a spot.

Roger that.

Huh? What's that about quoting? :tongue:

Glenn Petersen · May 12, 2010

Would have loved to join, but the 4th of July is a big holiday weekend for us in the US.

Danny Asbury · May 12, 2010

Ralf Eiden said:
don't like to compete with guys doing a hundreds laps practice being even supported through extra points for fastest Q n Race lap.

Last race i jumped in with 20 mins of practice and was 2.6 secs behind the fastest. After lap 1 or 2 I was 3rd cause most drivers were able to do a quick lap but seem to have difficulties to keep it for a 20 mins distance.
To be honest I've been touched a couple of times too often last race and prefer meet up with people who love racing rather than winning.

This is a very interesting post, as practice can be a hot button issue with simracing. I personally don't mind people practicing a lot, and sometimes I myself have been known to put in a boat load of time for a race. My thinking is, the better you know the track, the more fun you'll have during the race. Now, I wouldn't be opposed to limited practice leagues (although, I have no idea how you could limit how much people practice.) The thing is, the faster drivers will be faster, whether given 20 minutes or 300 laps. That's just the way it works. I mean, in RDTCC there is a guy over there that won the friggin' WTCC Virtual world championship, which got so much coverege I even learned about it while playing on the consoles. From what I hear, those guys are faster than the fast, and the guy in RDTCC beat them all. Point is, doesn't matter if that guy gets 2 laps to practice, more than likely he'll be faster than all the other guys with 2 laps of practice.

Bottom line, it's not the practice that determines the results, but the driver. Practice is just so things go a little more smoothly out there. lol

On another note, I also do agree that some guys around here can be a little aggressive while following, but I'll let off that issue for now.

That's my 2 cents for today!

Yves Larose · May 13, 2010

i have a little question, when do we know if we are choosen after applying for the league ?

Bram Hengeveld · May 13, 2010

After sign ups close

Eric. K · May 13, 2010

Ralf Eiden said:
if necessary at all I only take part in the 20 mins event as you know I'm not interested in the RD race server settings. Chase/bonnet view, auto clutch, don't like to compete with guys doing a hundreds laps practice being even supported through extra points for fastest Q n Race lap.
Last race i jumped in with 20 mins of practice and was 2.6 secs behind the fastest. After lap 1 or 2 I was 3rd cause most drivers were able to do a quick lap but seem to have difficulties to keep it for a 20 mins distance.
To be honest I've been touched a couple of times too often last race and prefer meet up with people who love racing rather than winning.

lol... you should try to jump into the RDTCC or FPWS without any practice. Not only you will be 3+s of the qualy times, but you will get lapped a couple of times by the leaders

Freddie Besems · May 13, 2010

Just a pre-look about starting skinning.

Lots of work to do, but all my cars are turning green.

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=2652

Dave Stephenson · May 13, 2010

Eric Kaczmarek said:
lol... you should try to jump into the RDTCC or FPWS without any practice. Not only you will be 3+s of the qualy times, but you will get lapped a couple of times by the leaders

and the rest, I ran Sepang race in there. Practiced hours for most of a week only to finish 5 laps down on the lead cars. true I spun twice but neither where big and they wouldn't acount for one lap between them.

David Zafiu · May 13, 2010

Eric Kaczmarek said:
lol... you should try to jump into the RDTCC or FPWS without any practice. Not only you will be 3+s of the qualy times, but you will get lapped a couple of times by the leaders

It's true that practice make you realise alot of things that you didn't know about the car and the track,but i have to admit that i am doing th same thing as Ralf most of the time.I practice just between 30 min - 1 hour before the official qualifications or even the race and i allways make it to the podium after first laps or quali on podium.True is also that i can't be soo stable as i am allways excited by the race and do mistakes like everyone,but if i get serious behind the wheel,adios mistakes.Usualy after first 4-5 laps on that circuit i have one of best times on track.I get used quickly,but the problem with mistakes will be resolved only by practice. :tongue:

About what Dave is saying now: You guys that do practice all the week before the race it's because you'r really excited also by the fact of driving and wanna prepare to be the best.More practice=better results,but not in all the cases as i allready told you,i'm a guy that make practice very very little if isn't a important race for me. I only feel the pleasue of racing at the official race.

Bram Hengeveld · May 13, 2010

Guys I don't want to ruin the skinning party for some people, but please read the format good. The car you have choosen is not automatically the car you can drive in the league (if you can drive at all).
- the chosen car is your first preference
- all 24 cars and 8 brands will be driving, so in case of everybody choosing the Corvette for example we randomly assign you a car brand, as there is only room for 3 cars per brand

James Chesters · May 13, 2010

Yep... That's why I'll only start skinning when I'll know whether I'm in and what car I will drive.

However, if by chance I drive the Corvette (which is almost impossible as it is not my first choice and as I assume several people will choose it), I already have an advanced WIP

Ries Notenboom · May 13, 2010

How would be decided who can race or not ? Fair system of giving all a number and randomize it have computer pick soem numbers and thats it ? Or picking system based on ...X?

Dave Stephenson · May 13, 2010

David Zafiu said:
About what Dave is saying now: You guys that do practice all the week before the race it's because you'r really excited also by the fact of driving and wanna prepare to be the best.More practice=better results,but not in all the cases as i allready told you,i'm a guy that make practice very very little if isn't a important race for me. I only feel the pleasue of racing at the official race.

I wanted to do the practice

. I knew I was out of my league (pardon the pun) the practice was exactly as you say to avoid errors and for everyone else's safety. I'm no alien, for me arriving at a league event with little to no practice is a dis-service to your fellow racers as only by spending enough time on the track and trying the off-lines as well as the fast lines can I be 100% confident that I don't constitute a risk to other peoples race unnecessarily, which is very important to me.

On a side note, 2 times of the tarmac in 90 mins and causing no major issues to anyone else after so long away from the F1s was a victory to me.

Peter Duivelaar · May 13, 2010

Ries Notenboom said:
How would be decided who can race or not ? Fair system of giving all a number and randomize it have computer pick soem numbers and thats it ? Or picking system based on ...X?

The race direction will make the decision, based on a drivers attendance in other races, if it is a fair driver etc.

David Zafiu · May 13, 2010

Dave Stephenson said:
I wanted to do the practice . I knew I was out of my league (pardon the pun) the practice was exactly as you say to avoid errors and for everyone else's safety. I'm no alien, for me arriving at a league event with little to no practice is a dis-service to your fellow racers as only by spending enough time on the track and trying the off-lines as well as the fast lines can I be 100% confident that I don't constitute a risk to other peoples race unnecessarily, which is very important to me.

On a side note, 2 times of the tarmac in 90 mins and causing no major issues to anyone else after so long away from the F1s was a victory to me.

Yes you'r right.You just maked me want having more practice

About the risk for others,true it is more risky if you come unprepared or with little practice,but for me isn't a problem as i allways drive fairplay and i know i'm not winning in first laps. When i first joined RD and online racing i have to admit that i was crazy about overtaking,now i have no problems if i stay behind someone 4-5 laps trying to find the right moment.Anyway,thank you for this discussion,i will make more practice from not. More safer