Thin flickering white lines across track @ Eau Rouge

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 27, 2015

Am I really the only one who get thin flickering white lines @ Eau Rouge ?

This is also happening at the end of the long straight @ Nordshleife.

The strange thing is that it disappears completely when using cockpit view

Also when I get closer the lines disappears gradually.

Please view @ 1080P -60FPS

Nordschleife after the Bilstein Bridge

RenZ_ · Aug 27, 2015

I would expect most people to be running cockpit view which is why we don't get it.

You should raise the issue on the AC forum though and specify on non-cockpit views you get the flicker. It is definitely a problem that needs fixing.

Edit: didn't read your post properly, re-worded mine

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 27, 2015

RenZ_ said:
I would expect most people to be running cockpit view which is why we don't get it.

You should raise the issue on the AC forum though and specify on non-cockpit views you get the flicker. It is definitely a problem that needs fixing.

Edit: didn't read your post properly, re-worded mine

I'm allergic to the AC forum

but I have posted a vid there also but it did not get any attention !

It's obviously AC related and has nothing to do with graphic settings, cables or monitors.

Don't think there is anything I can do on my side to get rid of it !

JoelGL · Aug 27, 2015

Honestly I don't see any, but can you mark them where you see them? In-game, perhaps I don't seem them as I drive cockpit view too.

Radu Oros · Aug 27, 2015

Yes I saw them on eau rouge road, on some trees and houses, some white flickering horizontal lines. Is more noticeable in cameras like external or bumper, but much less from cockpit.

Stereo · Aug 27, 2015

It's not really white, it's lack of black - the 'rubbered in' is clipping under the track and disappearing, at least on the road. I haven't noticed it elsewhere though (and since I usually run low level of track grip, it's not much noticeable on the road either).

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 27, 2015

Joel Locsin said:
Honestly I don't see any, but can you mark them where you see them? In-game, perhaps I don't seem them as I drive cockpit view too.

You need glasses M8

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 27, 2015

Radu Oros said:
Yes I saw them on eau rouge road, on some trees and houses, some white flickering horizontal lines. Is more noticeable in cameras like external or bumper, but much less from cockpit.

I see zero of these lines in cockpit view which I rarely use !

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 27, 2015

Stereo said:
It's not really white, it's lack of black - the 'rubbered in' is clipping under the track and disappearing, at least on the road. I haven't noticed it elsewhere though (and since I usually run low level of track grip, it's not much noticeable on the road either).

I wonder how you came to that conclusion ?

Check Nordschleife after the Bilstein bridge where you see the same type of white lines.

Bez · Aug 27, 2015

Did you ask about this in the latest "look what the cat hacked"? Someone mentioned it during the questions.
Not sure if it's the bit rate of the videos or the fact I'm looking at them on an iPad but I'm struggling to see the lines in your video and I've not noticed them while playing, but I'm also using cockpit view.

Stereo · Aug 27, 2015

Mikaela Andersson said:
I wonder how you came to that conclusion ?

Went in game and looked for it, since it's not something I've noticed before.

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 27, 2015

Bez said:
Did you ask about this in the latest "look what the cat hacked"? Someone mentioned it during the questions.
Not sure if it's the bit rate of the videos or the fact I'm looking at them on an iPad but I'm struggling to see the lines in your video and I've not noticed them while playing, but I'm also using cockpit view.

I've talked to a few other people who also has observed this problem but most of them ignore it because they are using the cockpit view.

I prefer the bonnet view though.

IMHO it looks like a freaking Pinball game especially @ Eau Rouge with all those thin lines flickering away across the track.

You need to view the vid @ 1080P & 60FPS in order to see the problem.

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 27, 2015

Stereo said:
Went in game and looked for it, since it's not something I've noticed before.

I don't see what these white lines has got to do with track grip or what you call 'rubbered in' ?

As you get closer to these lines they all disappear !

According to Kunos Stefano Twitter he don't seem to care at all for this problem.

I wish all views could be as pretty as the cockpit view but sadly they are not.

Billy Pilgrim · Aug 27, 2015

I'm guessing here... does changing shadow settings make any difference?

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 27, 2015

This problem surely has something to do with the different views because using cockpit view the problem is gone.

What worries me more than anything else is the fact that if the majority does not share the same view of a problem like this, nothing is going to change for the minority.

That would most certainly put the true PC Sim racers in the back seat when Kunos release the console version.

Stefan Sparco · Aug 27, 2015

Mikaela Andersson said:
I don't see what these white lines has got to do with track grip or what you call 'rubbered in' ?

I think it's called "Z-fighting" when you have one texture on top of another i.e the rubber texture on top of the track texture. Visible when you view at a particular angle which is why it probably happens in bonnet view.

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 27, 2015

IRobot said:
I think it's called "Z-fighting" when you have one texture on top of another i.e the rubber texture on top of the track texture. Visible when you view at a particular angle which is why it probably happens in bonnet view.

So why doesn't it show in cockpit view then ?

liquido · Aug 28, 2015

I never noticed until now... cockpit view user. They only disapear in cockpit view and is strange, I got them no matter visual configuration I use.

You should post on official forum, no excuses, just do it.

Stereo · Aug 28, 2015

Mikaela Andersson said:
I don't see what these white lines has got to do with track grip or what you call 'rubbered in' ?

The rubber on the track is what's flickering, the 'white' is just 'no rubber on the tarmac'

Tobbe Bergman · Aug 29, 2015

Stereo said:
The rubber on the track is what's flickering, the 'white' is just 'no rubber on the tarmac'

Then the following questions must be:

How come they totally disappears when using cockpit view ?

And why is it only showing on a few places/tracks ?