I'm in China in the Haas right now in career mode on 110% using the G27, and no matter what I do, several corners feel absolutely nasty right now, almost as if none of the added downforce or mechanical grip relative to 2016 actually works.
Comparing my line to the AI's in several corners, I get significantly less grip at any point during the corner than they do, which usually results in general massive understeer and sometimes a very weird 4-wheel drift, almost as if the car snap understeers for whatever reason. This is especially bad on turn 1, but happens in other corners as well, such as the second part of the fast chicane (there's zero grip on exit, while the AI seems to absolutely floor it), the double left-hander, or the right-hander before the back straight. In particular, especially compared to last game and to AMS's Formula Ultimate cars, I've found almost no way to get the car to enter a controllable oversteer using the throttle. The only thing that's worked in that sense so far was locking up the rears intentionally, then applying just enough throttle to maintain a slight portion of that resulting slide, which seems to be gaining me about two tenths on turn 6. Usually, however, applying even the slightest bit of throttle just causes massive understeer, almost as if traction control is enabled.
As well, the response from the FFB in a lot of places does not match up with what I'm expecting, and especially what I'm seeing in the Formula Ultimate cars in AMS. There's no feeling of understeer whatsoever, as the wheel reacts no differently regardless of whether there's more grip to be had or I've gone past the limit. The traction's no better, as the cars are much more prone to crazy death slides where the wheel does not respond until it is much too late. The nastiest thing of all is that when I intentionally test out how the wheel responds when I initiate a spin using the throttle by losing the rear, the wheel doesn't seem to actually do anything - all throughout, the front wheels of the car stay completely straight, just like I saw in rFactor 2 before refunding, which should never ever be happening in a car like this.
I've tried changing almost everything about the setup, but to no avail. The weirdest thing of all is that running less downforce actually makes the car better, almost as if the added grip from running higher wings does not materialize at all. At the front there's usually no grip whatsoever, with the AI's apex grip looking crazy high compared to my own, while at the rear it constantly feels like the car has traction control up until a point where it just spins wildly. It's better in the rain, but not by a whole lot.
Has anyone else had any issues with this? My laps are ultimately still pretty decent, as I can just about set a time within 0.1s of Grosjean in one-shot qualifying when testing out my current setup (1:34.4 I believe), but the car is an absolute nightmare to drive and I feel there's at least another second on the table, if not two. The other tier 2 cars feel no better right now - while I can't recall the exact times, a quick two-lap test in time trial showed that the Haas is around 3 tenths faster than the Force India and Renault and a whopping 8 tenths faster than the Toro Rosso, all of which struggled with the aforementioned understeer in turn 1 and before the back straight.
Comparing my line to the AI's in several corners, I get significantly less grip at any point during the corner than they do, which usually results in general massive understeer and sometimes a very weird 4-wheel drift, almost as if the car snap understeers for whatever reason. This is especially bad on turn 1, but happens in other corners as well, such as the second part of the fast chicane (there's zero grip on exit, while the AI seems to absolutely floor it), the double left-hander, or the right-hander before the back straight. In particular, especially compared to last game and to AMS's Formula Ultimate cars, I've found almost no way to get the car to enter a controllable oversteer using the throttle. The only thing that's worked in that sense so far was locking up the rears intentionally, then applying just enough throttle to maintain a slight portion of that resulting slide, which seems to be gaining me about two tenths on turn 6. Usually, however, applying even the slightest bit of throttle just causes massive understeer, almost as if traction control is enabled.
As well, the response from the FFB in a lot of places does not match up with what I'm expecting, and especially what I'm seeing in the Formula Ultimate cars in AMS. There's no feeling of understeer whatsoever, as the wheel reacts no differently regardless of whether there's more grip to be had or I've gone past the limit. The traction's no better, as the cars are much more prone to crazy death slides where the wheel does not respond until it is much too late. The nastiest thing of all is that when I intentionally test out how the wheel responds when I initiate a spin using the throttle by losing the rear, the wheel doesn't seem to actually do anything - all throughout, the front wheels of the car stay completely straight, just like I saw in rFactor 2 before refunding, which should never ever be happening in a car like this.
I've tried changing almost everything about the setup, but to no avail. The weirdest thing of all is that running less downforce actually makes the car better, almost as if the added grip from running higher wings does not materialize at all. At the front there's usually no grip whatsoever, with the AI's apex grip looking crazy high compared to my own, while at the rear it constantly feels like the car has traction control up until a point where it just spins wildly. It's better in the rain, but not by a whole lot.
Has anyone else had any issues with this? My laps are ultimately still pretty decent, as I can just about set a time within 0.1s of Grosjean in one-shot qualifying when testing out my current setup (1:34.4 I believe), but the car is an absolute nightmare to drive and I feel there's at least another second on the table, if not two. The other tier 2 cars feel no better right now - while I can't recall the exact times, a quick two-lap test in time trial showed that the Haas is around 3 tenths faster than the Force India and Renault and a whopping 8 tenths faster than the Toro Rosso, all of which struggled with the aforementioned understeer in turn 1 and before the back straight.
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