RD Le Mans Series Season 7 (rFactor 2)

[Gijs van Elderen]

Steam Id: ccmoreaucc
RD Forum name: Christian Moreau
RDLMS Team number & name: #105 Racers in Pyjamas

Steam Name: DShKM ???

 

[Christian Moreau]

Steam Name: DShKM ???

Yep, that's it Gijs. I always get confused by Steam ID as sometimes it means the account name used to log in which is different from my display name.

 

[Gijs van Elderen]

Steam Id: matipl123
RD Forum name: Mateusz Bogusz
RDLMS Team number & name: #3 SimTech International

What's your steam name?

 

[Akos Varga]

Steam Id: Varga Ákos
RD Forum name: Akos Varga
RDLMS Team number & name: #112 Team-GTRM

 

[Daiman Patel]

Yep, that's it Gijs. I always get confused by Steam ID as sometimes it means the account name used to log in which is different from my display name.

Apologies Christian, this is actually my fault for not making it clear.

In case anybody else is also unsure about what you need to provide, it is your current Steam display name.

 

[Luke Walsh]

Steam Id: Luke Walsh
RD Forum name: Luke Walsh
RDLMS Team number & name: #2 SimTech Motorsport

 

[Peter Hummel]

Steam Id: petterhummel
RD Forum name: Peter Hummel
RDLMS Team number & name: #112 Team-GTRM

 

[Gijs van Elderen]

@Otune : Friend request accepted: proceed to step 3 of the OP.

Steam Id: Otune
RD Forum name: @Otune
RDLMS Team number & name: #4 SpeedyMite Racing

 

[RustyDriver00]

Steam Id (display name):Shawn Jacobs
RD Forum name:Shawn Jacobs
RDLMS Team number & name: #4 SpeedyMite Racing

 

[Stefan Kanitz]

Confusing Steam Id. Edited my post on page 1.

 

[Roberto De Filippis]

Steam Id: Roberto De Filippis
RD Forum name: Roberto De Filippis
RDLMS Team number & name: #14 Sikania Endurance Motorsport

 

[Nicolo']

Steam Id: nicolo.fabbri93
RD Forum name: Nicolo'
RDLMS Team number & name: #116 FFT corse

 

[Mark Greenall]

I always thought curbs were meant to be used as long as 2 wheels remain over the white line? Why are we adding these horrendous bumps? For effect? It detracts from the racing and slows the Gt cars down horribly. In imola it was suggested to prevent cutting which is fine but there's nothing to cut here. I can see someone clipping one in the race and then taking someone or several with him.

 

[Matheus Machado]

Usually I understand cut track barriers, but this time it is going beyond what it should be doing.

It is completely fine to do something like in Descida do Lago, as we are allowed to place two wheels (as per rules) on the white line as shown here:

Spoiler: Descida do Lago

Even though time gains in the grass (there is no astroturf like irl there) and going wide there are questionable, also taking away a possible getaway area, I understand RD wants to be strict on track limits.

However, what is seen in pretty much all other bumps added is intrusive and possibly dangerous. Note that all the cases I show in these images, I still had some legal track space according to the rules.

Spoiler: Other corners

Senna S

Curva do Sol

Laranjinha

Bico do Pato

Junção

Also, what is the reasoning behind adding bumps in the pitlane entry? It is already dangerous by itself. Adding these bumps are only going to make things worse for cars going through the track and entering the pitlane, as it takes away a lapping spot and given Enduracers boaty feel it is very hard to keep the car within the bumps (it takes away a considerable amount of space going into the pits), while keeping reasonable speeds in the racing line beforehand.

Spoiler: Pits

Again as per rules it should be legal to place two wheels inside the line, maybe just allowing the inside wheels to touch the white line is a good alternative? It would prevent crashes and allows for a escape route if needed.


Also, as there will be live stewarding during the race, most of these bumps aren't necessary if teams report each other for cutting. It can be easily analysed once reported and it would also follow somewhat what is done irl currently.
I'm not asking for stewards to monitor 40 cars during 12H, as it is an extremely tough task, even irl they have automated track cut help as well as track marshals.


Remember it is a 12H race and increasing the possibility for incidents will possible bring more trouble than the race itself will already give.

 

[Daiman Patel]

IMPORTANT!

Information regarding full-course yellows has been updated in the Additional Regulations for RDLMS Season 7 (v1.2); see here (or below) for more information.

Full-course yellow. When a full-course yellow is due to come into effect Race Control shall announce "there will be a full-course yellow", before commencing a countdown from "5" down to "1" over TeamSpeak. Drivers should NOT slow down (excessively) during this countdown period, to prevent potential accidents. At the end of the countdown Race Control will state "full-course yellow is in effect"; after this announcement all cars must immediately slow down to pit-lane speed, and have their pit limiters engaged. During the full-course yellow period all cars are expected to continue with caution, at pit-lane speed, and no overtaking shall be permitted except when a car has spun or is moving slowly due to potential damage. Announcements regarding slow moving cars shall be made over TeamSpeak. At the end of the full-course yellow period Race Control will state that the danger has cleared, perform another countdown, before calling "Green Flag". Once "Green Flag" has been announced cars can return to racing speed. The pits shall remain open at all times. NOTE: During the full-course yellow period the session will actually remain green, for technical reasons.

 

[Daiman Patel]

IMPORTANT!

Information regarding full-course yellows has been updated in the Additional Regulations for RDLMS Season 7 (v1.2); see here (or below) for more information.

Full-course yellow. When a full-course yellow is due to come into effect Race Control shall announce "there will be a full-course yellow", before commencing a countdown from "5" down to "1" over TeamSpeak. Drivers should NOT slow down (excessively) during this countdown period, to prevent potential accidents. At the end of the countdown Race Control will state "full-course yellow is in effect"; after this announcement all cars must immediately slow down to pit-lane speed, and have their pit limiters engaged. During the full-course yellow period all cars are expected to continue with caution, at pit-lane speed, and no overtaking shall be permitted except when a car has spun or is moving slowly due to potential damage. Announcements regarding slow moving cars shall be made over TeamSpeak. At the end of the full-course yellow period Race Control will state that the danger has cleared, perform another countdown, before calling "Green Flag". Once "Green Flag" has been announced cars can return to racing speed. The pits shall remain open at all times. NOTE: During the full-course yellow period the session will actually remain green, for technical reasons.

 

[Daiman Patel]

I have been doing some laps with my teammate Flores, and we felt really concerned about the bumps added on the kerbs. We agree about the need of the bumps, but the position at some corners invites to avoidable incidents. If the bumps could be at the edge of the kerbs and not over the kerbs, it would be a big difference.

The most noticeable problems are at: exit of "Curva del sol", exit of "Descida do Lago", and at the exit of "Junção". There are no problems with the inside kerbs, because you can handle that, but at the exit you don't have the same control.

I always thought curbs were meant to be used as long as 2 wheels remain over the white line? Why are we adding these horrendous bumps? For effect? It detracts from the racing and slows the Gt cars down horribly. In imola it was suggested to prevent cutting which is fine but there's nothing to cut here. I can see someone clipping one in the race and then taking someone or several with him.

Usually I understand cut track barriers, but this time it is going beyond what it should be doing.

It is completely fine to do something like in Descida do Lago, as we are allowed to place two wheels (as per rules) on the white line as shown here:

Spoiler: Descida do Lago

Even though time gains in the grass (there is no astroturf like irl there) and going wide there are questionable, also taking away a possible getaway area, I understand RD wants to be strict on track limits.

However, what is seen in pretty much all other bumps added is intrusive and possibly dangerous. Note that all the cases I show in these images, I still had some legal track space according to the rules.

Spoiler: Other corners

Senna S

Curva do Sol

Laranjinha

Bico do Pato

Junção

Also, what is the reasoning behind adding bumps in the pitlane entry? It is already dangerous by itself. Adding these bumps are only going to make things worse for cars going through the track and entering the pitlane, as it takes away a lapping spot and given Enduracers boaty feel it is very hard to keep the car within the bumps (it takes away a considerable amount of space going into the pits), while keeping reasonable speeds in the racing line beforehand.

Spoiler: Pits

Again as per rules it should be legal to place two wheels inside the line, maybe just allowing the inside wheels to touch the white line is a good alternative? It would prevent crashes and allows for a escape route if needed.


Also, as there will be live stewarding during the race, most of these bumps aren't necessary if teams report each other for cutting. It can be easily analysed once reported and it would also follow somewhat what is done irl currently.
I'm not asking for stewards to monitor 40 cars during 12H, as it is an extremely tough task, even irl they have automated track cut help as well as track marshals.


Remember it is a 12H race and increasing the possibility for incidents will possible bring more trouble than the race itself will already give.

Thank you very much for all of your feedback guys. It is incredibly valuable and much appreciated - the screenshots are especially helpful. I shall forward this information and the suggestions on to @Gijs van Elderen, who is helping us with track updates and modifications.

 

[Attila Miklós]

Steam Id: miklati
RD Forum name: Attila Miklós
RDLMS Team number & name: #112 Team-GTRM

 

[Gijs van Elderen]

we are allowed to place two wheels (as per rules) on the white line as shown here:

No. But tollerated incase of discussion...

League rules:
The track is a strip edged by clearly defined lines (usually white, sometimes yellow).
....
Drivers must always, whilst being in control of the car, remain within the track edges and thus over the track surface with at least two wheels

2 wheels should remain within the white lines. Not on the white lines.

As you have proven with your screenshots. All speedbumbs are well placed except the exit of T4 (Descida do Lago).
A compromise has been made at T4 with the track testers to allow 2 wheels on the white line.

Thanx for testing.

 

[Gijs van Elderen]

It could be i misinterpreted 2 wheels "within" or "on" the white line...

@Bram ... thoughts?