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Fair enough I should have said personally, I wouldn't
So I have this question...The 'X' has a 95 watt TDP
The 'non X' has a 65 watt TDP.
The X has a 200 MHz higher base clock.
Other than that, they're identical.
I got the X but all I'll do is put my H212+ modified on it...set the DDR4 to 1.35 volts...and let it do it's thing.
I figure the 2600X was already very fast and smooth.
Anything I get now, is cake.
Testing lower resolutions with todays GPU's predicts future CPU performance at higher resolutions when future high end GPU's come to market.Who cares about 1080p when you spending $700+AU on a CPU be realistic at least
Their conclusion totally ignores the 1 question they and everyone else wanted the answer to for months ! Are they fastest for gaming are they faster one core
I'm sorry your prices don't make sense, here in Europe and the US however AMD is much much more affordable, especially compared to Intel. That is why we are all excited.3D GURU ..............what a cop out, all the excuses under the sun
Who cares about 1080p when you spending $700+AU on a CPU be realistic at least
Their conclusion totally ignores the 1 question they and everyone else wanted the answer to for months ! Are they fastest for gaming are they faster one core
NO and they are dearer while doing it ,....did someone slip me a mickey or has AMD just become worst monster then Intel
Now they will collude with Intel to keep prices artificially high
I'm a peanut to think it would be a price war
You have to be careful saying that.This is why some don't understand getting AIO when I don't bother overclocking anymore
In summer here without air conditioning is 40-45+C ambient lol
I don't care if it's the best air cooler money can buy..... EVERY air cooler in those temps will die then next comes ....CTD lol
Never happens with liquid
As I thought, slightly slower slighty dearer
Here 3900X is $50 dearer then 9900KF and that is without Intel 10-15% price drop
I may wait for 9900KS
So they're being sold now...
Question is do I go for 3600 or 3600x...
Will be pairing it with an X470 Gaming 5 or Ultra I think
Thanks for the response. Out here I really need the CPU to run as cool as possible due to my ambient temp issues. My 3770k runs at about 65 degrees at 4.4Ghz with the AIO on performance mode, which I think is pretty much running at 100% when playing ACC or rF2.I know comparisons are being made between the 3900x & 9900k in gaming but really Ryzen 9 is aimed at gaming/production workloads. As we know next gen consoles will be 8 core so, looking forward, the sweet spot for gaming would be the 8 core parts which eliminates the need for expensive X570.
Personally speaking I don't think you would see much improvement, if any, over what you already have Durge. For the expense of moving to a new platform i would want the difference to be night and day. Wait and see what 4th gen Ryzen brings. I forget more than i remember, but it will be bringing new innovations to the table. And you know Intel are also busy behind the scenes...
The simple answer is this: If you are happy to manually overclock or just want to save a few bucks and don't mind the 200mhz difference, get the 3600. If you don't want the hassle of overclocking and just want best performance out of the box, get the 3600X.
Now the long answer: Although the 3600X has a higher TDP, it is actually the more power efficient of the two. The main reason that 3600's didn't make it to X status is that they weren't able to run that extra 200 mhz within the 95W envelope. There is every chance they will overclock as well as an X but will likely need more power and therefore run hotter to do so. TDP (thermal design power) has more to do with heat generated than actual power consumption.
Which is why i recommend would manually o/cing non X models. Auto overclock features can be a bit wild with the voltages. Hand tuning gives the best frequency at voltages and temperatures that are specific to your cpu and situation.
Just watched a video from "der8auer", German OC guru, lots of records with liquid nitrogen cooling etc.Would a 3600x OC beyond its recommended boost frequency easy enough?
Just watched a video from "der8auer", German OC guru, lots of records with liquid nitrogen cooling etc.
He says that he's not sure what to think about AMD's latest specs.
Ryzen 1000 and 2000 was like "Okay your CPU will 100% sure run this clock speed". But when kept cool, they all went above that clock speed.
Now Ryzen 3000 is a lot different. AMD says "Your CPU will run this clock speed as absolute maximum".
Meaning if not kept extremely cool, it will definitely run slower.
His "4.4 GHz cpu" was more like a 4.2-4.3 GHz CPU...
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Does anybody know if we could increase the boost limit to maybe 4.5 GHz or increase the base clock to 3.9 GHz or something?
Afaik you can't. It's either full auto mode or manual all core OC, which sucks.
Hard to say until they have been out in the wild for a while.Would a 3600x OC beyond its recommended boost frequency easy enough?
Hope you yet the new CPU soon then. I look forward to real people advising on this stuff rather than videos on YouTube that may or may not have been sponsored or who may have bias towards one manufacturer over another.My own experience with the 2600X was that as long as it stayed cool, it'd self clock all the way to 4300+
Theoretically the CPU was only supposed to boost to 4.2 GHz.
Mileage may vary on the 3600X I just ordered yesterday.
I'll take the efficiency gains in the new processor.
That's probably more due to the fact that AMD apparently didn't send review samples for 3600(x) to reviewers yet, so those wanting to do a review of 3600 had to source them themselves.I can't find any comparison between the 3600x and the 3700x. Might be due to the 3600x being better in quite some games due to the higher base clock while having the same boost?